Posted on 08/27/2015 12:09:47 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
(Largo, FL) With the exposure of Planned Parenthood’s activities in procuring aborted babies for scientists, the media is buying into the lie that this is “life-saving” research. In a recent article picked up by the AP and published in US News, the hysterics were evidenced by the headlines “Amid uproar over anti-abortion videos scientists say fetal tissue essential for research”. The article starts out sounding like talking points for Planned Parenthood’s Cecile Richards by quoting from Stanford University spokesperson Lisa Lapin: “If researchers are unable to work with fetal tissue, there is a huge list of diseases for which researchers would move much more slowly, rather than quickly, to find their cause and how they can be cured.”
Not only has there never been a cure for any disease whatsoever using aborted fetal material, the very next sentence demonstrates what’s really behind their motives. From 2011 through 2014 alone, 97 research institutions – mostly universities and hospitals – received a total of $280 million in federal grants for fetal tissue research from the National Institutes of Health. Cha-ching! Looks like government defunding of Planned Parenthood is only the tip of the iceberg isn’t it? Next the article notes that vaccines for hepatitis A, German measles, chickenpox and rabies were developed using cell lines grown from tissue from elective abortions.
“What they fail to admit is that with the exception of chickenpox there are moral alternatives for every one of those vaccines using animal cell lines,” stated Debi Vinnedge, Children of God for Life’s Executive Director. “There are 47 vaccines licensed in the US, 8 of which use aborted fetal cell lines yet only 3 of them have no moral option...
(Excerpt) Read more at cogforlife.org ...
Maybe they are looking for the switch that will turn the tumors off.
Meanwhile, babies are slaughtered and women are physically and mentally maimed.
Just like Auschwitz.
So, did you also approve of Nazi medical experiments conducted in the Death Camps? They were conducted by some of the most eminent doctors and researchers in their fields. They yielded a lot of valuable data, and let to medical treatments that have, yes, saved lives.
Which is OK if we ignore that the research was done ancillary to a system involving the extermination of millions.
So it’s all good, then, that we murder millions of babies in the name of “research?”
Before my time and nobody asked me.
So it’s all good, then, that we murder millions of babies in the name of “research?”
Point out a vaccine that is made of dead baby parts.
You are painting a whole industry with a shotglass of paint.
I haven’t bothered to look, but it makes sense. Fetal collagen would be a superior product for anti-aging creams.
What are the doing with the livers and the brain tissue?
Something very odd here.
Are they transplanting these organs into humans?
In humblegunners world, killing children/babies/unborn is necessary to prevent our outside the womb selves from getting sick.
Let me say this, loud and clear, NO CHILD should EVER have to die to save me, or mine, medically.
There is no reason/purpose/benefit from killing children besides the enjoyment of Satan himself.
It is the job/position/obligation of adults to PROTECT our young and unborn.
I would rather die than to be part of the murder of innocent children.
I'd be real interested to see what statement of mine led you to that conclusion.
Amen! Children are worth dying for...Truth is worth dying for...Standing up to evil is worth dying for...This is what Jesus taught us. It is what it means to be a Christian!
I sure Joseph Mengele though his work was “life-saving” research too.
Didn’t the Nazis use adults in their tests. If so, what we’re doing is far worse.
Yes, what they are doing is “Just like Auschwitz.” Recently, I was in a group of women discussing the horror of the Holocaust. Many had been to the Holocaust Museum and had visited sites in Germany. Some were wondering why the world didn’t stop all that when it was beginning to happen. I could not help but wonder why these very women were not trying to stop the new Holocaust right under our noses. It is just like Auschwitz, where people were not concerned because the gas chambers and the horror was hidden from view. It is the same with murdered babies. We are such hypocrites!
I am reminded of a very strange thing I heard: IIRC, it was part of the Democrat Convention in 04. Some woman was speaking and every time she mentioned embryonic stem cell research as something it was necessary to fight for, there was a HUGE roar from the crowd.
The only conclusion I could come to was that ESC research justifies abortion, so they really, really, really want to keep it going.
No, I’m just trying to figure out what your position is on this issue. Your first post could be construed to mean that you have no problem with using the tissue of aborted babies in medical research.
Is that in fact your position?
So.. by "trying to figure out my position" you accuse me of:
In humblegunners world, killing children/babies/unborn is necessary to prevent our outside the womb selves from getting sick
Really? Nice technique. Vaccinations equal dead babies and Polio never happened and.. I don't know what all.
Your logic eludes me and that's probably good.
You didn't really make that asinine statement did you????.........I mean really????????.....no s/ mark???
I ran out of characters. I'm on Twitter after all...
I received a degree in Germanic Languages in 1981, and to obtain it I had to read a lot of what was then current German literature. And I have long been a student of history, with a particular interest in World War 2. Allow me to make some observations.
If you had taken the average German of 1927, and described the Holocaust and the other atrocities that would happen in World War 2, they would have said “That can’t happen here.” Indeed, Germany was the most cultured, educated, technologically and scientifically advanced country in Continental Europe.
In 1955, when the Germans were ready to take a good hard look at their legacy, their literature and culture presented two dominant themes for at least a generation. One was “How could we have let this happen?” Two screenplays really brought this home. One was “Biedermann und die Branstifter,” or “Joe and the Arsonists.” Biedermann, which roughly translates as “everyman,” rented his upper room to a pair of thugs who openly said they would blow up the whole town. Biedermann blew them off, even as they carried out their preparations under Biedermann’s roof. Biedermann remained in denial, even as the thugs got him engaged in cutting fuses for them. In the end, the thugs did in fact blow up the entire town. Biedermann confronted them, and their response was “We told you what we were going to do, why didn’t you believe us.”
The other play was “Der Besuch der Alte Dame,” translated into English as “The Visit.” A jilted lover who has become fabulously wealthy returns to her now-impoverished home town with an offer to give them a billion dollars...if only they kill the man who jilted her years ago. In the end, they do it.
As the Germans wrestled with this theme, it became apparent that in human nature, a people can collectively slide incrementally into a cesspit of barbarism, and it is rare that the individual will speak out. And so it was with the Holocaust.
The year after I received that degree, I enrolled in law school, and in my first semester, my Civil Procedure professor turned one lecture over to a Holocaust survivor, who told us what he had to do to be the only member of his family to walk out of Auschwitz. I knew about the Holocaust, and thought “so what” as it related to the study of law. When the presentation was done, Professor Harvey took the podium, and all he said was “Your duty as lawyers is to make sure this never happens again.” And that hit me in the stomach; as the Holocaust unfolded, where was the Rule of Law? Where were the lawyers who said “You can’t do this?” Because everything the Nazi government did to the Jews was perfectly legal. The Nazis made it legal.
When that presentation was over, I mingled in the student commons with my classmates. Guess what they all said.
“That can’t happen here.”
Well, Professor Harvey, I have to confess I’ve failed in my duty, because it is happening here right now.
You attributed a quote to me that I did not make. Go re-read the posts.
Nor did you answer the question I asked. I will give you one last opportunity to answer the question.
Do you approve of the use of tissue gained from abortions in medical research? It’s a very simple question and I’m sure you are capable of the minimal logic required in providing an answer.
We are living under the cloud of deceit mentioned in the Bible. It is here right now. And that group who went into the PP web, videotaped them describing and laughing about baby body parts and reported back to all of us, they are the ones to whom the media finds fault. That is like someone sneaking into Auschwitz with a camera and finding proof of death and torture, then taking those images to Hitler.
We need a come-to-Jesus moment.
Oh crap! Can summary execution be far behind?
Look, Jack.. I don't have to explain anything to YOU.
Fact is, I think equating the vaccination issue with the abortion issue is pretty dang weak.
Now.. take your "last opportunity".. fold it up tightly.. bend over...
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