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To: Kaslin
Despite missing the call along with virtually every other conservative and Republican pollster in 2012, Michael Barone remains a respected number cruncher with real conservative credentials.

It is too bad that in this article he does not come out with real data to answer the question which perennially plagues the Republican Party, whether we lose because we have not loosened up enough to entice the mushy middle or do we lose because we haven't tightened up enough to energize our muscular base?

We conservatives have argued ever since Ronald Reagan walked off with two of the greatest landslides ever that the Republican Party was throwing away its birthright when it despises its own conservative base. Since then we have lost the popular vote in national election after national election, as I recall five of the last six of them, and every time we have sought to accommodate moderates.

Many conservatives are energized by Donald Trump believing that he is a muscular conservative. It is clear that he is robust but it is not clear that he is a conservative. It seems to be clear that that his candidacy, whether intentionally or not, will strike a blow at the Republican establishment who have given us accommodationists ever since Ronald Reagan. But it is not clear that Trump is a conservative nor is it clear that he will govern as a conservative in the unlikely event that he captures both the nomination and the election.

It it is not clear whether Trump will energize the base sufficiently to overcome the amount of Democrats he is no doubt energizing or independents , especially women, whom he might be offending? That is not by way of an assertion that is by way of a question, hence the ?.

Nor is it clear whether Trump will garner enough Reagan Democrats, blue-collar workers especially, in the rust belt, and the coal industry, other middle-class people displaced by immigrants, to compensate for any losses he might generate elsewhere. It is entirely possible that even while Donald Trump wrecks the Republican Party (I can dream can't I?) he might at the same time be creating a whole new coalition reminiscent of Ronald Reagan's brilliant and unstoppable force. That is something to contemplate before breakfast.

I think we have to be very careful about being drawn up in an enthusiastic rush for Donald Trump because he generates enthusiasm within our conservative community. We have to be careful about projecting our perception of the world onto people who do not live and breathe politics. We have to be especially careful about projecting our values onto females who get their politics from the pages of Cosmopolitan magazine.

Michael Barone is opening a whole lot of options for us to ponder some of which might just not be impossible.


13 posted on 08/28/2015 9:00:27 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford; All

I think the analysis on Trump misses the point. This issue is not so much a left/right/ moderate thing. It’s a nonvoter/ voter thing. The highest participation rate in recent years was 2008 when roughly 65% of those eligible voted. More typical are participation rates just north of 50%. It doesn’t take a brilliant mathmetician to figure out that if a large number of those otherwise nonparticipants show and show to support or oppose on e candidate, there will be one helluva large effect.

You can’t explain something like that in right/left, red/blue terms because that has nothing to do with it. These are the folks who given their druthers would have nothing to do with any of that. They’re voting because the urgency of the situation or the unusual attractiveness of the candidate.

I’ve seen one election like this in my life:1980. I think it possible that 2016 is a repeat. The issue though is more a sort of quiet nationalism than some sort of reaction to the tired old left right fight.


30 posted on 08/28/2015 10:48:00 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Voting is useless, and it makes you complicit.)
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