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Jorge Ramos: Envisioning ‘Trumpland,’ what America would look like if Trump were president
Dallas News ^ | 08/28/2015 | Jorge Ramos

Posted on 08/28/2015 11:59:47 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen

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To: Kid Shelleen
Here's what the U.S. might look like if this happens:


61 posted on 08/28/2015 12:49:51 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Cis-American)
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To: Kid Shelleen
They already tried this 'Day Without A (Illegal) Mexican' nonsense before. Nobody noticed.

I'm thinking we might see something like:

(YouTube) '1952 Day In The Life Of A 1950's Small Town'

62 posted on 08/28/2015 12:53:39 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Kid Shelleen

“Jorge Ramos: Envisioning ‘Trumpland,’ what America would look like if Trump were president”

WOW! It would sure look a hell of a lot better than it does now!


63 posted on 08/28/2015 12:55:21 PM PDT by kenmcg
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To: Hostage

It sounds great to me, too!

VIVA TRUMP 2016!!!


64 posted on 08/28/2015 12:58:34 PM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

What is he talking about?

I never heard Trump say any of these things.

Whorehey is worth over $200 million and his fortunes are tied to illegal immigration. That is the truth.


65 posted on 08/28/2015 1:05:11 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: Kid Shelleen
Compare to Jesse Jackson on the street panicking from approaching footsteps until he sees stranger is white.


66 posted on 08/28/2015 1:14:43 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Envisioning “Ramos-Land”

No southern border
ICE Agents patrolling the northern border
Spanish as the national language
Mandatory “diversity” in housing, all communities (except Jorge’s) to be mixed by force
Jailing of anyone in Republican party who does not commit to enforcing all of the above

Sounds like paradise!


67 posted on 08/28/2015 1:22:23 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Trump campaign ad: Trump, in his Apprentice chair, saying "America, you're hired")
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To: polymuser

Jorge Ramos has stated publicly: ”I’ve never ceased to be Mexican and I vote in elections in both countries”

Ramos support the Mexican invasion of U.S., he is one of the crazy Chicanos (as the San Antonio Castro brothers) that want to create a Mexican state, Aztlan, covering all of the South West of U.S.; his loyalty is to Mexico, not the U.S.

When Ramos was made American citizen he had to make and oath that he has violated.

“I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America.

Every time Ramos opens his mouth to push the Mexican illegal immigration, we should ask him about the Mexican Immigration laws.

To solve our immigration crisis U.S. should adopt the Mexican immigration laws, probably the most draconian in the world.

Mexico, which annually deports more illegal aliens than the United States does, has much to teach us about how it handles the immigration issue. At a time when the Supreme Court and many politicians seek to bring American law in line with foreign legal norms, it’s noteworthy that nobody has argued that the US look at how Mexico deals with immigration and what it might teach us about how best to solve our illegal immigration problem.” (Center for Security Policy ^ | April 13, 2006 | J. Michael Waller)

To solve our immigration crisis U.S. should adopt the Mexican immigration laws, probably the most draconian in the world.

Mexico’s Ideal Immigration Law—Let’s try it here at home

Center for Security
Policy ^ | April 13, 2006 | J. Michael Waller

Mexico has a radical idea for a rational immigration policy that most Americans would love. However, Mexican officials haven’t been sharing that idea with us as they press for our Congress to adopt the McCain-Kennedy immigration reform bill.

That’s too bad, because Mexico, which annually deports more illegal aliens than the United States does, has much to teach us about how it handles the immigration issue. At a time when the Supreme Court and many politicians seek to bring American law in line with foreign legal norms, it’s noteworthy that nobody has argued that the US look at
how Mexico deals with immigration and what it might teach us about how best to solve our illegal immigration problem.

Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are: in the country legally; have the means to sustain themselves economically; not destined to be burdens on society; of economic and social benefit to society; of good character and have no criminal records; and contributors to the general well-being of the nation.

The law also ensures that: immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor foreign visitors do not violate their visa status; foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country’s internal politics; foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported; foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported; those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.

Who could disagree with such a law? It makes perfect sense.

The Mexican constitution strictly defines the rights of citizens – and the denial of many fundamental rights to non-citizens, illegal and illegal. Under the constitution, the Ley General de Población, or General Law on Population, spells out specifically the country’s immigration policy.

It is an interesting law – and one that should cause us all to ask, Why is our great southern neighbor pushing us to water down our own immigration laws and policies, when its own immigration restrictions are the toughest on the continent?

If the United States adopted the law, Mexico no doubt would denounce it as a manifestation of American racism and bigotry.

We looked at the immigration provisions of the Mexican constitution. Now let’s look at Mexico’s main immigration law.

Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society: Foreigners are admitted into Mexico “according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress.” (Article 32)

Immigration officials must “ensure” that “immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents. (Article 34)

Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets “the equilibrium of the national demographics,” when foreigners are deemed detrimental to “economic or national
interests,” when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when “they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy.” (Article 37)

The Secretary of Governance may “suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest.” (Article 38)

Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country: Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)

A National Population Registry keeps track of “every single individual who comprises the population of the country,” and verifies each individual’s identity. (Articles 85 and 86) A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).

Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:

Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)

Foreigners who sign government documents “with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses” are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article116)
Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned:

Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)

Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)

Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121).

Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico – such as working with out a permit – can also be imprisoned.

Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says, “A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally.” (Article 123)

Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article125)

Foreigners who “attempt against national sovereignty
or security” will be deported. (Article 126)

Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:

A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the countryis subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)

Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132)

All of the above runs contrary to what Mexican leaders are demanding of the United States. The stark contrast between Mexico’s immigration practices versus its American immigration is telling. It gives a clear picture of the Mexican government’s agenda: to have a one-way immigration relationship with the United States.

Let’s call Mexico’s bluff on its unwarranted interference in U.S. immigration policy. Let’s propose, just to make a point, that the North American Free Trade
Agreement (NAFTA) member nations standardize their immigration laws by using Mexico’s own law as a model.

I am sure Mexicans would be proud that the U.S. copy their more enlightened laws.


68 posted on 08/28/2015 1:23:06 PM PDT by Dqban22
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To: Kid Shelleen

“Let’s imagine for a moment the kind of country that Donald Trump, the leading Republican presidential hopeful, wants America to become if he’s elected.”

1) The ERs would be less crowded.
2) Walmart, et al income from money transfers back home would drop.
3) The welfare offices would be nearly empty.
4) Mobs waving Mexican flags demanding benefits and amnesty would disappear.
5) Hospital costs would drop dramatically as “birthright babies” would no longer be dropped by the battalion.
6) Uninsured drivers would no longer be a major problem.
7) Democratic dreams of perpetual office would fade.
8) Professional victim groups would go bankrupt.
9) Fill in your own experience.

Is there a problem here?


69 posted on 08/28/2015 1:26:50 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate. [URL=http://media.photobucket.com/user/currencyjunkie/me)
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To: Red Badger

What you say is true. But it goes deeper into Latin culture, which is just Roman culture.

Rome was not a nice place as you know. Only the Big Man won.

All the Conquistadors were trying to be the Big Man. Cortez never planned on staying in Mexico - the plan was to loot the joint and head home to join the Real Upper Class of Beeg Men. From his point of view, he succeeded wildly. After all, he dumped the entire Aztec empire with a little help from a virus. Not the software kind...

But it explains everything. The “macho” culture is about taking, not making. Only the Beeg Man can take, and in their culture, if you can do that, and the other guy gives in to you....he is strong and you are weak.

Jefes and peons. Nothing in between.

Now add in the ruthless, feral criminals from Iberia and you turbocharge it as you said. These people stop at NOTHING. Think Pablo Escobar.

But in those countries, these guys are admired - although feared - as powerful machos to be respected. A real man is not bound by laws, right? Yeah right. So we get Castro, Chavez, Maduro...every dimwitted thug dictator who causes the country to descend into desperation.

And lets not forget the dear, unlamented Salinas de Gortari familia in Mexico. Clever and polite thugs, but thugs nonetheless. Fabulously successful thugs who looted 100 million people.

Nobody there condemns them. It’s the way it is, ju know, seen-yor?

Changing all that....whenever I think about it, I just laugh. See ya in 300 years. That’s where they are culturally. Go to places like Loreto, or Obregon. It’s the 15th century, except they have a used car lot, and dopes walking around in straw hats who smuggle dope.

The basics haven’t changed. Upending culture is really, really, REALLY hard. And they wouldn’t see the point anyway. What’s not to love??

Can the Aztec and Maya be civilized? Yeah, in isolation. But nobody lives in isolation. Certainly not with mass illegal immigration. They just end up with themselves, only further North. So they don’t change.

People are now getting a glimpse of all this. Contrary to the old stereotype of the peasant campesino sleeping with his sombrero, and being passive, we are now seeing the ranting, insistent, relentless and repellant behavior of the real Mexico: Jorge Ramos yapping non-stop, talking over the ditzy blonder. That’s the real Mexico: keep going until you get over. Don’t give an inch.

Trump is actually familiar with that, being from New York. So he knows how to push back. But you have to have the will to do that: they know other Americans don’t, because they are cowed by PC.

We had better lose that and adopt the Trump Way of pushing back HARD or else we WILL end up being their subjects.


70 posted on 08/28/2015 1:28:50 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: donna

Jorge Ramos - the fruit with dual-citizenship.


71 posted on 08/28/2015 1:32:45 PM PDT by paintriot (TRUMP: The 10 Billion Dollar Man- Better, Stronger, Faster!!!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I wonder how many Texas residents spilled their coffe when they read this opinion this morning.


72 posted on 08/28/2015 1:36:47 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Kid Shelleen

11 million deported is just a good start on getting the other 20 million onto the border bus.


73 posted on 08/28/2015 1:40:28 PM PDT by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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To: PhiloBedo

The WSJ also does not distinguish between Legal and Illegal Immigrants.

They love cheap labor streaming across the border illegally, and it suits their preferences to never make the distinction.


74 posted on 08/28/2015 1:40:48 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (RINOs EARNED TRUMP! I prefer Cruz, but someone has to kick their A$$!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

“As Trump sees it, with the border wall up and the {ILLEGAL} immigrants out, the U.S. could be a great nation again.”


Works for me!

STE=Q


75 posted on 08/28/2015 1:46:16 PM PDT by STE=Q ('The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing'... Edmund Burke)
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To: Kid Shelleen

11 million undocumented immigrants?

Try 11 million alien invaders. We need to appoint Col. West as head of the General Eisenhower Brigade to push these invaders back across the border.


76 posted on 08/28/2015 1:49:27 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

Agreed except I think it should be the George S. Patton Brigade!


77 posted on 08/28/2015 1:52:44 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Kid Shelleen

“Nothing much wrong with that. Trumpland may not be perfect, but it sure beats Ramosland.”

There’s problem, though. The white male is well on it’s way to extinction. They’re either queer or they’re spending their days knocking up the educated females who man our country’s industries and bureaucracies and then have abortions every four months. So we may have to face the likeihood that Speedy Gonzales is going to be our replacement.


78 posted on 08/28/2015 2:17:08 PM PDT by haroldeveryman (to target)
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To: Regulator

Cortez had it right. Be more ruthless than your enemy. Only the strong survive, and gets to write the history......................


79 posted on 08/28/2015 2:30:47 PM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: Red Badger

Ke ke

Yeah, that’s what they’re worried about right now...seems they’re encountering one like that.

The scam called “loot the gringos” might be up


80 posted on 08/28/2015 2:42:32 PM PDT by Regulator
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