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Kentucky Clerk ‘Out Of Options’ In Gay-Marriage Dispute, May Face Stiff Penalties
Daily Caller ^ | 9/2/15 | Connor D. Wolf

Posted on 09/02/2015 7:00:44 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: markomalley

Kentucky needs to protect its people from a lawless USSC action.


61 posted on 09/03/2015 2:41:40 AM PDT by Ray76 (When a gov't leads it's people down a path of destruction resistance is not only a right but a duty.)
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To: Personal Responsibility
“She has run out of options,” Turley concluded. “We live in a nation of laws.”

She'll run out of options when her God does.

Turley thinks she's cornered. Foolish, foolish man. In his Pilgrim's Progress, Reformation writer John Bunyan (not to be confused with the giant lumberjack) called this sort of thinking, and the chorus of voices like Turley's, the Vanity Fair. We call it "the Conventional Wisdom" nowadays, but Bunyan excoriated it as a kind of satanic temptation.

To select a more recent metaphor, Turley would have told Rosa Parks to just go back and sit in the back of the bus, the law being against her.

Guess libs don't have much use for civil disobedience if the cause isn't their own.

62 posted on 09/03/2015 3:02:48 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: Rastus
Gay werewolf posters do that ..... sign up and cache a screen name, then activate it to do a drive-by calumny.
63 posted on 09/03/2015 3:09:36 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: Diamond
If you want to sow to the wind, and don't mind if marriage and family are stripped of any of their normative content at the barrel of a gun then don't be surprised when you and civilization reap the whirlwind.

Shamelessly trolling for my own preferred outcome, I've invited gays on Salon to push their overabundant PAC money into a big pile and go buy Paraguay, and then turn it into the absolutely stunning gay society that they are convinced will make the rest of the world green with envy.

I still hope they'll go for it.

64 posted on 09/03/2015 3:14:16 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: markomalley
I think this gal may have some precedence to offer up in her defense:

For instance, a nurse or doctor can refuse to perform certain procedures which violate their religious conscious such as performing or assisting in abortions or giving a blood transfusion (Jehovah Witness).

I don't see why she couldn't use that reasoning for herself only. She can't order others to stop issuing gay marriage licences.

I may be wrong completely here but it's worth a try.

65 posted on 09/03/2015 4:02:28 AM PDT by 3catsanadog (I love my country; I don't like its government)
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To: spinestein

then go to another clerk or driver’s license center.


66 posted on 09/03/2015 4:04:01 AM PDT by 3catsanadog (I love my country; I don't like its government)
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To: 3catsanadog
I don't see why she couldn't use that reasoning for herself only. She can't order others to stop issuing gay marriage licences.

All marriage licenses issued in that county must have her signature. She doesn't want her signature on a document licensing a sodomite "marriage"

67 posted on 09/03/2015 4:05:06 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: spinestein
Would you say the same thing if you went to the DMV for a drivers license and the clerk refused to give you one based only on his personal religious belief that you shouldn’t have one?

She can cite Scripture (many, many passages) indicating that sodomite behavior is abominable. Giving sanction to that behavior would be formal cooperation in that abomination.

Can you perhaps cite Scripture (not just God's word, but any major religious texts) that assert that issuing a drivers license to an otherwise competent person would be a formal cooperation with evil?

How about if you wanted to get a permit to put an addition on your house and the city official denied you that?

This already happens. If a person, for example, wanted an addition on their house in order to accommodate religious worship, there are many examples where building permits were denied because they'd create a zoning problem.

Do you usually exercise your right to vote? Maybe you’d like to experience being told you can’t register to vote because some public official says that God told him you were a sinner.

My above question applies here: can you cite some religious doctrine that arbitrarily denies a person the right to vote based solely upon a religious rationale?

On the other hand, all this self righteous woman needs to do is perform the task she was elected to do and fill out some paperwork. No harm done.

You, FRiend, need to study up a little bit on the subject of moral theology, specifically, the concept of formal and material cooperation with evil.

68 posted on 09/03/2015 4:12:02 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

Thank you - I didn’t know that.


69 posted on 09/03/2015 4:12:33 AM PDT by 3catsanadog (I love my country; I don't like its government)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Then the article wrongly asserts that the Supreme Court issued an order.


70 posted on 09/03/2015 4:52:51 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: markomalley

I admire this woman.


71 posted on 09/03/2015 5:06:50 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: spinestein

In after midnight zot


72 posted on 09/03/2015 5:33:08 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: markomalley
The Supreme Court refused her request Monday to stay its unanimous ruling that she provide any and all couples with marriage licenses.

The unanimous ruling was the circuit court. We don't know how many Supreme Court justices voted to take her case other than it was fewer than four.

73 posted on 09/03/2015 5:43:35 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: 3catsanadog

One quick clarification. She can’t order clerks in other KY counties to not issue licenses. She can and has ordered her staff not to issue them, under the principle that it’s still her name on the document.

Thats why the Federal Judge has summoned both her and her staff to appear before him this morning.

This is now more a test of wills than a legal or moral argument. The court can declare that the couples have a right to the licenses, but it doesn’t have the ability to force her to issue them. Only increase pressure on her using various methods until she acquiesces. Question is how much pressure will be enough to get her to break. IS there enough pressure to get her to break?

I think evangelical Christians are right to see her as their version of the lone guy facing down the Chinese tank in Tianamen Square all those years ago.


74 posted on 09/03/2015 5:43:48 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: parksstp

Huckabee is backing her completely, which is no surprise. Rand Paul issued sort of a tepid support for her. Cruz is supporting her. Fiorina is against. Jindal is supporting her. I don’t know about the rest.


75 posted on 09/03/2015 5:47:40 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: tanknetter

Daniel 3

in particular, verse 18

“But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.”


76 posted on 09/03/2015 5:48:13 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: bolobaby

Exactly.....they want to BEND her and others like her to their will.


77 posted on 09/03/2015 5:50:57 AM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do....)
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To: Jim 0216
It is up to the state of Kentucky to stand up with this clerk against the bully, unconstitutional fed tyrants. Kentucky should tell the feds NO PENALTIES and Kentucky intends to protect Kentucky citizens against federal tyranny.

If Kentucky was going to then they would have by now. The governor ordered her to issue the marriage licenses.

78 posted on 09/03/2015 5:54:51 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: spinestein

You can keep saying mind your own business,and I will keep telling you it IS my business-and the business of every decent institution,private or governmental.
Go back in your closet and STFU.


79 posted on 09/03/2015 5:56:09 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Fledermaus

If they bring of Social Security benefits, then I would say, “Oh... so it’s about getting money from the government?”


80 posted on 09/03/2015 6:06:20 AM PDT by bolobaby
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