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The shocking truth about Donald Trump: He’s actually the least terrifying GOP candidate
Salon ^ | September 3, 2015 | Conor Lynch

Posted on 09/03/2015 9:37:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

With all of the outrageous and downright offensive remarks that have been regurgitated by Donald Trump over the past few months, the most logical forecast made by political analysts was that his campaign would implode, sooner than later, as so many have before. Like the stock market, Trump 2016 seems to be based on a bubble of irrational emotions — in this case fear — and at any moment, that bubble could burst. Today, however, it’s looking more and more like Trump’s lead in the polls is not going to burst anytime soon, and that the man who seems to be the perfect manifestation of a stereotypical American — a loud, obnoxious buffoon — actually has a chance of winning the GOP nomination for president.

This is scary to think about. Not just because of his virulent xenophobia and nationalism, but because of how damaging a President Trump would be to America’s reputation in the world. At the same time, maybe it will take a joke like Trump — who, just a reminder, once released his birth certificate to prove that his father was not an orangutan — to show just how much of a farce American democracy really is. Trump is creating a dangerous new nationalist movement that is absolutely adored by white supremacists and Tea Party conservatives alike. His big personality may be a bridge between the more extremist right wingers who preach intolerance and hate, and the moderate conservatives dedicated to blindly loving their country.

That being said, if we take a look at Trump, beyond all of the controversial remarks from him and his supporters (i.e. “Go back to your country!”) and the despicable attack on immigrants, it becomes quite clear that a president Trump would actually be less dangerous than, say, a president Walker. In fact, just about every other major GOP candidate is probably more threatening to progress than Trump.

This is because Donald Trump isn’t really a part of the GOP. He doesn’t depend on corporate funding and is more concerned with his own ego than the party he is currently running in. While his unfiltered remarks have gotten all of the media’s attention, he has also made certain comments that would have probably been enough to kill any other GOP candidates campaign.

Take, for example, his defense of Planned Parenthood. In the midst of the hit job on the women’s health organization, as every other candidate was jumping on the bandwagon to defund the entire organization, Trump correctly said that the abortion services were a very small part of Planned Parenthood, and that they do undeniably important work for women. Compare this to the supposedly moderate Jeb Bush, who said that the organization is “not actually doing women’s health issues. They’re involved in something way different than that,” which PolitiFact.com fittingly rated “Pants on Fire.”

When it comes to economic issues, Trump is also very different than his GOP competitors, and is more or less running against the GOP orthodoxy when it comes to taxes. Last week he almost sounded like a progressive when talking about the tax code:

“I would change it. I would simplify it. I would take carried interest out, and I would let people making hundreds of millions of dollars a year pay some tax, because right now they are paying very little tax and I think it’s outrageous. I want to lower taxes for the middle class.”

When asked about paying more taxes himself, he affirmed his willingness:

“I do very well, I don’t mind paying some taxes. The middle class is getting clobbered in this country. You know the middle class built this country, not the hedge fund guys, but I know people in hedge funds that pay almost nothing and it’s ridiculous, OK?”

Compare this to the basic GOP talking point of lowering all taxes, including those for the hedge funds guys. When Rand Paul and Ben Carson come out with a flat tax program, they promote it is a gift to all taxpayers — especially the middle class — but really it is a gift to the richest of the rich. Trump is running against this GOP dogma and the creepy Grover Norquist’s “Taxpayer Protection Pledge,” which has long had a hold on the GOP. Whether a candidate promising to raise taxes on the ultra-rich will be able to withstand this force will be interesting to see.

Beyond these issues, Trump has opposed cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, and also, as was made so very clear at the first debate, previously supported universal healthcare and opposed the war in Iraq.

Trump’s bluntness and independence, along with his big mouth and unapologetic nativism have so far proven to have lasting power, at least with the GOP base. The reactionary movement that has grown louder over the past few months, however, may end up being much more dangerous that Trump himself — embracing his nativism and nationalism while ignoring some of his saner policies that could actually help the middle class.

Trump winning the primaries is still a long shot. And he’s even more of a long shot to win the national election. But the scary thing is that America would probably be better off with a president Trump than any of the other major GOP contenders, who are either puppets for their corporate masters or wholly controlled by their dogma (i.e. Mike Huckabee’s Christian chauvinism).

The fact that Trump is the most progressive of GOP candidates, at least when it comes to certain policies, simply shows how very backwards the GOP actually is. Of course, Trump’s supporters don’t much care about policies, and this may be why he is still doing so well in the GOP field. According to a recent poll, 66 percent of Trump supporters believe that President Obama is a Muslim, while 61 percent are not convinced that he is American born. So the majority of his supporters are basically conspiracy theorists operating in the fantasy world of Trumpland. They don’t really know what he supports, but they know that he’s tough and doesn’t seem to like immigrants or Muslims — so he’s their man. Again, the nativist movement that Trump has given energy to may be much more dangerous than Trump himself — but when compared to the GOP at large, Trump is only a minor villain to progress.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gopprimary; immigration; plannedparenthood; trump
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
the perfect manifestation of a stereotypical American — a loud, obnoxious buffoon

This is what the author thinks about the average American, a loud, obnoxious buffoon.

Well, maybe I am a little loud, and I try hard to be obnoxious, but I take umbrage with the buffoon label.

21 posted on 09/03/2015 9:54:08 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why not give us all an update on Scotty’s daring 10 county bike ride through NH? The excitement is killing me. LOL!


22 posted on 09/03/2015 9:55:12 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Logical me

If Cruz isn’t at the top of the ticket, I would prefer him to remain in the Senate where he can actually do some good.

I would LOVE to see Cruz as Majority Leader.


23 posted on 09/03/2015 9:55:18 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Left loves them some Donald.


24 posted on 09/03/2015 9:55:50 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Donald Trump: Quality Conservatism Since 2015.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The effete effeminate urban poofters at saloon dot com are pooping their pants.

Fluffy bunnies and pretty butterflies are cavorting in the sunny meadow.

Fish are swimming in the sea.


25 posted on 09/03/2015 9:56:00 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Logical me
Trump would get things done now not in a few years like the rest of the lineup.

Walker: Jan. 3, 2011 Assumed office

Jan 3, 2011 Signed Wis up for the states' Obamacare Lawsuit.

June 3, 2011, Revoked instate tuition for illegals [ONLY gov/state that has], lowered taxes, eliminated over a THOUSAND state positions, "attacked" unions (collective bargaining), was targeted for recall......

26 posted on 09/03/2015 9:58:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I know. The point is it’s a liberal rag saying that. Typical tar baby stuff from their perspective. “Please, throw us Trump.”


27 posted on 09/03/2015 9:58:43 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Well, I just knew Gov. Walker would begin to catch your eye.

: )

He’s doing a 10 county ride and meet Sunday and Monday through New Hampshire.

As we chit chat, he’s in his second day of a 3 day swing through Texas.


28 posted on 09/03/2015 10:01:17 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Georgia Girl 2

There is at least a kernel of truth to the article. The Huckster scares the poo-poo out of me too...


29 posted on 09/03/2015 10:01:48 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Beware the Wisconsin Weasel - GOPe Plan B)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
So he can sign his name. Any evidence he wrote in cursive???
30 posted on 09/03/2015 10:03:05 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Beware the Wisconsin Weasel - GOPe Plan B)
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To: cripplecreek
Frankly I find the whole thing to be odd.

FReepers said the Media gives John McCain all the coverage because they want him to be the nominee.

FReepers said the media gives Mitt Romney all the coverage because they want him to be the nominee.

FReepers say the media gives Trump all the coverage because they don’t want him to be the nominee.

?


A valid point. The media has been bringin out more of the big guns to take on Trump than we usually see. I think right now the media is doing everything they can to avoid talking about Ted Cruz, Clinton, or the abortion videos. The rolling Trump side-show is a good way to do that.
31 posted on 09/03/2015 10:03:17 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Are you a union member?


32 posted on 09/03/2015 10:03:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: cripplecreek

They give Trump all the coverage because they can’t help themselves.


33 posted on 09/03/2015 10:03:57 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Like the stock market, Trump 2016 seems to be based on a bubble of irrational emotions — in this case fear

Dear God, I hate liberals.

34 posted on 09/03/2015 10:04:17 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I agree partly but here is where I feel folks are not seeing the bigger picture. I repeatedly hear how Trump has donated here or Trump has donated there. If you look he has donated across both aisles and yes mainly Democrat. However you’d swear anyone that makes a pint in this has ever spent a single second in big business or making money on a large scale. Look at the states in which he operates. NYC, NJ, VEGAS, CA. see a pattern? Yes, they have been, are, and always will be heavy blue states from now till God knows when. So what does a business savvy man like Trump do to capitilze and maximize his profits? You got it, he donates, rubs elbows with and says glowing things about the dominant party while also filling coffers of the opposing party. What is his true heart? I don’t think anyone really knows. But I can tell you this, he is running as a Republican because he sees the country being flushed down the tubes fiscally.


35 posted on 09/03/2015 10:05:59 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: nickcarraway

All I did was yawn.

As usual, you sure are touchy.


36 posted on 09/03/2015 10:06:01 AM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/(Cruz or Palin))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Not even close. If Walker had elevated his Wisconsin handlers to his national campaign he might be doing better. Clearly somebody has to tell him what to say and when.
37 posted on 09/03/2015 10:06:31 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Beware the Wisconsin Weasel - GOPe Plan B)
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To: Logical me
Trump would get things done now not in a few years like the rest of the lineup.

Within his constitutional constraints?
38 posted on 09/03/2015 10:07:48 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: cripplecreek

“FReepers say the media gives Trump all the coverage because they don’t want him to be the nominee.”

Maybe they think if they give him enough rope he’ll hang himself?

Personally, I think he gets the time because he gets the ratings, and even those who don’t like him are fascinated by him. My liberal son (Sorry about that!) watched some YouTube videos about Trump and laughed—in a good way—and did not seem negative about him at all. But, who knows, we don’t talk politics.


39 posted on 09/03/2015 10:07:54 AM PDT by Calpublican (Republican Party Now Stands for Nothing!!!!!(Except Conniving))
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To: Jarhead9297
"....At the time, real estate magnate was considering running for president as a member of the Reform Party [1999]. Asked by CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer if he’d “given some thought to a potential Trump Cabinet,” Trump mentioned Rangel as his top choice to lead HUD.

“Well, let’s go — like HUD,” Trump said. “I think Charlie Rangel is a terrific guy. He’s a congressman from New York. He has been a powerful guy. Now the Democrats are not in power, but I think he’d be terrific at HUD.”

Other Trump Cabinet picks would have included Colin Powell as secretary of state and General Electric CEO Jack Welch as treasury secretary. Trump said that John McCain would be “a very interesting candidate” for secretary of defense." Source

40 posted on 09/03/2015 10:09:33 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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