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To: deport

***Obergefell overturned Baker and requires all states to issue marriage licenses
to same-sex couples***

This is absolutely NOT true and typical of Wikipedia.

The Supreme Court gave its OPINION that all states must recognize SSM from other states, and its OPINION that SSM is Constitutional.

The Supreme Court CANNOT require any state to do anything because it cannot LEGISLATE.


81 posted on 09/09/2015 9:10:20 AM PDT by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: ResponseAbility

I just linked Wiki. There are several links out there and one to a pdf file of the actual ruling.
It takes a long time to download as it’s 103 pages so I didn’t. Can you cite the specific
lines/wording use in the ruling. Copy and paste if you can. Thanks.

Here’s a link from the SCOTUS Blog

Holding: The Fourteenth Amendment requires a state to license a marriage between two people
of the same sex and to recognize a marriage between two people of the same sex when their
marriage was lawfully licensed and performed out-of-state.

http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/obergefell-v-hodges/

Here’s a link to actual ruling, 103 pages....
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CEUQFjAIahUKEwi6rqqnturHAhWDooAKHcqwCr4&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.supremecourt.gov%2Fopinions%2F14pdf%2F14-556_3204.pdf&usg=AFQjCNEvhVaEfYuJixcNwN323i0IG3iy8Q&sig2=GX3xeJFHMd03Ap1sjtf76A&bvm=bv.102022582,d.eXY


82 posted on 09/09/2015 10:07:30 AM PDT by deport
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To: ResponseAbility

this would explain why the homosexuals are pushing this myth.

they KNOW they can not force a state to issue a marriage license to homosexuals any more than a state can be forced to sanction “common law marriage”. (there are only eight states that still have common law marriage) HOWEVER they are able to have full faith recognition.


83 posted on 09/09/2015 10:38:17 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ResponseAbility
The Supreme Court CANNOT require any state to do anything because it cannot LEGISLATE.

Nonsense, they do it all the time.

In 1954, the Supreme Court issued their decision in Brown v. Topeka Board of Education, et. al. It didn't suggest that maybe the Kansas and Virginia and South Carolina and Delaware and D.C. maybe ought to look at their discriminatory laws. That ruling struck down all laws segregating schools by race and made it illegal in all the states.

In 1974 the Supreme Court issued their Furman v. Georgia decision. That decision didn't suggest that states might want to re-examine their capital punishment laws, it struck down the death penalty in every state of the Union and forced them to write new ones.

In 1967 the Supreme Court issued their decision in Loving v. Virginia. In it the court ruled that a ban in interracial marriage was unconstitutional, and at the same time it did not strike down all of Virginia's marriage laws. It just struck down those parts forbidding interracial marriage. And that ruling applied to all states with similar laws.

We can certainly debate the wisdom and logic of the Obergfell decision. But the idea that the Supreme Court cannot strike down a state law or part of a law as unconstitutional is patently false.

87 posted on 09/09/2015 11:30:25 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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