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Kim Davis Is Complicated
Townhall.com ^ | September 11, 2015 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 09/11/2015 10:19:52 AM PDT by Kaslin

Kim Davis is the clerk of Rowan County, Ky. After Anthony Kennedy and four other justices of the United States Supreme Court decided that they know better than the more than 50 percent of Americans who either oppose gay marriage or think the states should have decided things, Davis decided to stop issuing marriage licenses in Rowan County.

Kentucky Attorney General Jack Conway, now running for governor of Kentucky, had refused to represent Kentucky in federal court in the gay marriage case. He needed to consolidate the political left to his side. Defending Kentucky's constitutional provision in support of real marriage would have cost him political support. So he sat on his hands.

It was left to Davis, a county clerk, to stand up for the rule of law. Once Kennedy decided happiness trumps democracy, Davis refused all marriage licenses. To avoid being accused of discrimination, Davis would not issue licenses to anyone, heterosexual or homosexual, and denied other clerks in her office the right to do so because Davis' name would be on the licenses.

Davis had been married multiple times, but prior to her current marriage, she converted to Christianity. In an age of cultural Christianity, many on the left assume being born a Christian is just a cultural thing. In reality, no one is born a Christian, but rather we are born again into Christianity. Because Davis is now a Christian and takes her faith seriously, she does not want to undermine an institution she believes God created, and in a way, she herself had undermined it prior to asking Jesus for forgiveness.

But the issue is more complicated than many Christians would acknowledge. Davis took an oath to uphold the Constitution of Kentucky and to faithfully execute the laws of Kentucky. When Davis was sworn in, the law required that she issue marriage licenses to heterosexual couples. After the Supreme Court's heavy-handed rejection of democracy, Davis herself engaged in a heavy-handed rejection of democracy. She, with no authority, essentially rewrote her constitutional job description to include not giving marriage licenses to anyone.

Had Davis just not issued licenses to gay couples, she could have said that when she took her oath the law pertained to heterosexual marriage, and Kennedy and his merry band of culture warriors had no power to change Kentucky's Constitution. Under our system of law, she would have been wrong, but she would not have engaged in a wholesale rewriting of her position.

On the opposite side are those who think Davis should be denied the right to hold office because of her Christian beliefs. The governor of Kentucky could have convened the legislature to deal with the issue. Instead, he preferred to watch Davis and other Christians squirm. The state could have provided a means for Davis to keep her job without sacrificing her faith.

In fact, as the country becomes more and more secular, the left thinks people of faith must give up their faith to serve government. Never mind that all Americans should be able to serve in government. The state should be able to accommodate the religious beliefs of its citizens as opposed to forcing citizens to give up their beliefs or violate them in order to serve their fellow citizens through government.

For a while now, the political left has treated the First Amendment's "freedom of religion" clause to be a freedom from religion clause. They have treated the U.S. Constitution's prohibition on religious tests for office to be a prohibition on the religious to hold office. In the prevailing hypothetical of the day of whether we should be OK with a Muslim at the DMV refusing to give a woman a driver's license, we should be answering yes, so long as there are others there who can and will give the driver's license.

Davis and Christians should not expect that she can engage in civil disobedience without punishment. But we should all roll our eyes at the absurdity of the state refusing to accommodate her to the point of throwing her in jail. The nation has lost its mind.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: christianity; fagmarriage; homosexualagenda; kimdavis; religion
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To: deport

There is no zealot like a convert...


21 posted on 09/11/2015 11:27:15 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Yeah, it’s part of it.

Roe V Wade was another....

BTW, I met a group of Jews at the “Kim Davis Rally”.

Not many, but they were there in solidarity.

All religions are under attack. It’s largely because the left sees them as a impediment to social change in the same way that they view most republicans or conservatives...

Too judgmental they say.

When in fact it is they doing the judging.


22 posted on 09/11/2015 11:37:16 AM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: MrB

Throwing Christians in jail for their beliefs
was the whole point of legalizing Gay “Mirage”.

There are times that typos are a god send, since “Mirage” definitions include -’something that appears real or possible but is not in fact so’.


23 posted on 09/11/2015 11:52:45 AM PDT by aloppoct (stucnsf)
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To: deport
She remarried Davis her 2nd husband in 2009 for her fourth marriage. She got religion in 2011.

That's what I thought and the story is wrong.

24 posted on 09/11/2015 11:57:31 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Kaslin

Martin Luther King going to jail for civil disobedience=good
Kim Davis going to jail for civil disobedience=bad.
So White people and black people have different standards Mr Erickson?
Got it
you blithering dolt.
You “disinvited” Trump to your red state bash and are a GOPe porcine twit.
Adios
Freegards
LEX


25 posted on 09/11/2015 11:59:18 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: MrB

Mirage means that something that appears real or possible but is not in fact so.


26 posted on 09/11/2015 11:59:29 AM PDT by aloppoct (stucnsf)
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To: deport
5-4 decisions are what we seems to be stuck with. Maybe at some point in the future that

Congress has the constitutional authority right now to end it. They could pass a law that requires that any SCOTUS decision regarding the constitutionality of any State or Federal law must be unanimous.

They could also strip all lower courts from having any jurisdiction to hear any constitutional challenge.

27 posted on 09/11/2015 12:08:24 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Tagline pending.)
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To: Cold Heat

All religions are under attack.


Disagree - only Judaism and Christianity will be targeted,
because of the common factor of the provably divine Word of God.


28 posted on 09/11/2015 12:20:19 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: aloppoct

Not a typo. That’s what I’ve taken to calling it - purposely.


29 posted on 09/11/2015 12:20:58 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

thanks for your clarification. You must be a ‘mirage counselor’


30 posted on 09/11/2015 12:39:43 PM PDT by aloppoct (stucnsf)
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To: aloppoct

Yes, but it’s so hard to keep customers.


31 posted on 09/11/2015 12:40:42 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Well....sure, I see your point, but raise you some international issues...

In China, there are many offshoot religions of Buddhism that are under attack by the state approved organization, in many parts of Asia you have the Muslims not only going after Christians, but assaulting Hindu’s as well. In fact, no matter where you go, there is a sense that numerous religious sects that lived together in peace for decades are now for various and sundry reasons, either defending against or launching political, and physical attacks against the minorities..

In Europe the rise of anti-Semitism once again is garnering headlines, in addition to the tensions between Islam and both the Christian and agnostic populations.

All this factors into and supports a general global disharmony that I believe is leading us head first into a cataclysm.

So it’s not just a US issue. It’s not just libtard gay militants, and it’s not just Christianity.

Add to all of this what I see as increased tensions between all of the monotheistic sects in the West, and you have a recipe for something I cannot even imagine.

This is what I referred to.


32 posted on 09/11/2015 12:41:40 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: MrB

You should branch out further than just your ‘apparitions’


33 posted on 09/11/2015 12:45:47 PM PDT by aloppoct (stucnsf)
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To: Kaslin
In fact, as the country becomes more and more secular, the left thinks people of faith must give up their faith to serve government. Never mind that all Americans should be able to serve in government. The state should be able to accommodate the religious beliefs of its citizens as opposed to forcing citizens to give up their beliefs or violate them in order to serve their fellow citizens through government.

Which is EXACTLY what the Civil Rights Act of 1964, specifically Title VII already says! How many bloody times do I have to post that here on FR and elsewhere? Are people really this stupid????

The same Civil Rights Act of 1964, Title VII that does not discriminate between the public or private sector!

Therefore, Judge Dunning is primarily responsible for violating Kim Davis' civil rights and should be IMPEACHED AND REMOVED from his office for doing so. Ignorance of the law is no excuse, especially for Judges.

The Voters of Kentucky will need to deal with the Kentucky State Legislature at the voting booth for their own failure in addressing numerous attempts by Kim Davis and others, who directly appealed to the Governor and State Legislature to "fix" Kentucky's broken law and insert a reasonable accommodation clause as required by the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

34 posted on 09/11/2015 12:55:00 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

My read, when I was in Kentucky only a few days ago, was that their intent is to do exactly what you advocated.

Kentucky’s governor also contributed to this problem, and the State legislature does not reconvene until January 2016.


35 posted on 09/11/2015 1:00:54 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: usconservative

BTW...Governor Beshear...a democrat, has repeatedly said that he will not call for a special session to deal with this.

As I said, he is a big part of the problem and the locals know it....


36 posted on 09/11/2015 1:16:17 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Cold Heat

I was a liberal before Jesus got a hold of me. Maybe she’ll switch parties?Or, maybe she is to witness to those leaning left. Only the Lord knows....


37 posted on 09/11/2015 1:26:05 PM PDT by italyconservative (John 3:30 - May He increase!)
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To: Cold Heat

I just hope they remember this on election day. Given most voters have A.D.D. however I’m doubtful they’ll remember, much less kick him out of office.


38 posted on 09/11/2015 1:30:02 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: italyconservative

I don’t personally know why she ran for office as a democrat. State and local politics often entails party swapping in order to get on one ballot or another..but I have no idea and it was not much of a issue for me in terms of supporting her.

She did not belong in jail for her religious beliefs, be she democrat, republican or non affiliated.

The founders established the US government to be a haven for believers, as they themselves fled religious persecution.

To deny that, and to make it impossible for believers to make and sell cakes, cater wedding or be the county clerk, is the most anti-American thing that anyone could possibly conceive of in the United States of America.


39 posted on 09/11/2015 1:34:41 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: usconservative

His terms of office are just about up, so he will not be running again if I understand this correctly. I think this is why he did not react to political pressure. He did not have to....


40 posted on 09/11/2015 1:36:20 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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