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Court rips EPA for approving Dow insecticide linked to honeybee deaths
The Washington Examiner ^ | September 11, 2015 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 09/12/2015 8:04:06 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: DoughtyOne

That Washington Time editorial is just so wrong.

First of all, they disparage the EPA for trying to prohibit the use of neonicotinoids. Trouble is, the EPA actually allowed the use of that type of pesticide. The lawsuit just decided this past week found AGAINST the EPA for allowing the use of neonicotinoids because of insufficient studies.

Secondly, the Washington Times cherry picked the data from the Department of Agriculture’s report - http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/2015/150513.htm. Yes, winter kill of honey bees is down. HOWEVER, summer kill is significantly up, and the yearly percentage of honey bees dying has been trending up. There is a problem with honey bees dying.


21 posted on 09/12/2015 9:39:36 PM PDT by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The government, whom many believe is the answer to every ill, inevitably succumbs to corruption and incompetence. Until that lesson is learned, mankind will continue to fashion its own yoke of servitude.


22 posted on 09/12/2015 9:50:05 PM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: ConstantSkeptic

Well, I’m no expert on the subject, but some folks sure aren’t buying it.


23 posted on 09/12/2015 10:44:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: ConstantSkeptic

I don’t know where you are located, but my hives are doing just fine.
Other than the drought has reduced a lot of the natural forage and production is down a little, I have not had any unusual problems.
No excessive winter or spring die off.


24 posted on 09/13/2015 12:11:06 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Right, and stories like this are a reminder that there are some functions that we need the EPA to be carrying out effectively. (That is, the whole agency should not be scrapped.)


25 posted on 09/13/2015 12:26:17 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: ConstantSkeptic; DoughtyOne; Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Yes, winter kill of honey bees is down. HOWEVER, summer kill is significantly up, and the yearly percentage of honey bees dying has been trending up.

Even if the die offs are up correlation does not equate to causation.

You need evidence linking the death of bees to the insecticides.

I read an article months ago showing microscopic mites in the hives of the dead bees.

Perhaps the new insecticides are causing the bee deaths but there needs to be science behind the removal of the insecticide from the market not just a reactionary federal appeals court.

26 posted on 09/13/2015 1:45:43 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: libertylover

Clever diversion. /s


28 posted on 09/13/2015 4:31:18 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: DoughtyOne

Bees HAVE been getting scarcer for about the last 20 years. What is the cause of this is unknown. My favorite theory is “genetic entropy” aggravated by the apiarist’s bee handling practices that limit genetic diversity of the bee population.

I feel that the nebulous list of causes discovered for CCD reflects a general decline in the genetic “fitness” of bees. The extinction of bees may be inevitable eventually but beekeepers themselves are probably accelerating that trend.

Genetic entropy is a real phenomenon and must cause the extinction of every living thing eventually. See Dr. John Sanford’s (inventor of the gene gun) work called “Genetic Entropy”


29 posted on 09/13/2015 6:31:41 AM PDT by UnChained
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To: Post5203

Think genetic entropy. Re: “Genetic Entropy” by Dr. John Sanford (inventor of the gene gun).

It boils down to the fact that in every generation of every living thing, there is a small number of copying errors in its DNA. Those errors usually do not cause the outright death of the organisms, therefore there is no natural selection against the accumulating errors. Eventually there is such a general decline in function that the organism becomes so unfit that extinction results from a mildly adverse environmental change.


30 posted on 09/13/2015 6:52:41 AM PDT by UnChained
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To: 9YearLurker

Government is the greediest, most corrupt and murderous force on Earth. It’s not even debatable. But lets’ have a religious faith in government anyway.


31 posted on 09/13/2015 8:30:19 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Is the Pope Catholic?)
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