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Ahmed Mohamed, 14, Builds Clock, Is Cuffed for Bomb Hoax, and Ends Up Invited to White House
NY Times ^ | SEPT. 16, 2015 | PETER BAKER and CHRISTINE HAUSER

Posted on 09/16/2015 3:14:15 PM PDT by TroutStalker

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To: TroutStalker

the clock was a bomb timer


61 posted on 09/16/2015 4:29:12 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump)
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To: TroutStalker

Simply a test by his parents and his mosque; no more, no less. Use our laws and our stupidity against us.


62 posted on 09/16/2015 4:31:11 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (1984 Now)
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To: roostercogburn

I’d be looking at daddy real good.


63 posted on 09/16/2015 4:31:22 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Redbob; discostu; DoodleDawg

Yes, white kid would have been arrested.
Case in point: the infamous Ohio “class three look alike weapon” offense.
Most kids have more sense.
This jerk decided to do this to see what people would say.
Digital clock andwires in a pencil case, testing the waters.
Then claim profiling afterwards.
Get invited to see Barry big ears.

White kid?
Expelled, criminal record, pariah.


64 posted on 09/16/2015 4:34:12 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: vpintheak

I’m sure BO is going to ask Goforth’s family soon as well as the kids that got in trouble for having U.S. and Confederate flags on their trucks, and the kid who was sent home because he wore a Marine Corps tee shirt to school in honor of his older brother and....


65 posted on 09/16/2015 4:39:27 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: bgill

The way the MSM has been reporting it , sounds like a clock that would sit on grandma’s mantel, suitcase full of wires not mentioned


66 posted on 09/16/2015 4:39:43 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: Darksheare
Case in point: the infamous Ohio “class three look alike weapon” offense.

White kids have been expelled for having a butter knife in the trunk of their car. Zero tolerance they say.

67 posted on 09/16/2015 4:41:57 PM PDT by TroutStalker ("Protect the hypersensitive. Ban everything.")
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To: rbg81
Let's see, the kids father is apparently an activist, and this took place in Irving, TX, where the city supported the state ban on Shariah law?

Something smells about all this.

68 posted on 09/16/2015 4:43:34 PM PDT by stratman1969 (IMPEACH, REMOVE, & IMPRISON OBAMA)
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To: x1stcav

Admin called the cops. Teacher did what they are supposed to, sorry.


69 posted on 09/16/2015 4:43:42 PM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: Cyclone59

Teachers can get in deep trouble for hiding things like this from administration.


70 posted on 09/16/2015 4:45:09 PM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: stratman1969

Let’s see, the kids father is apparently an activist, and this took place in Irving, TX, where the city supported the state ban on Shariah law?
Something smells about all this.


Yup. This kid was dissed, so Obama will announce he’s bringing in a million Syrians.


71 posted on 09/16/2015 4:45:54 PM PDT by rbg81 (is pr)
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To: stratman1969

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3337734/posts

His clock, a busy gadget of circuits and wires without either a conventional clock face or a digital display, looked more like a bomb than like a clock.

Irving police said that Ahmed carried his homemade clock to school in a briefcase; once there, he plugged it in during English class, and it began making noise.

If he took it in to school to show it to an engineering teacher, why did he plug it in during English class? What kind of clock makes noise, other than ticking?


72 posted on 09/16/2015 5:14:58 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: TroutStalker

Muslims....
Even the Great I Am of the Bible doesn’t have anything good to say about them....

Genesis 16:12


73 posted on 09/16/2015 5:34:53 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (This Hispanic wants a wall, the National Guard, and turrets guarding our border)
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To: ladyjane; TroutStalker
Your post #49 noted.

I smile ruefully and remember an old axiom.

Divide and rule

The kid may have done just that.

74 posted on 09/16/2015 6:25:47 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: TroutStalker

Yup.


75 posted on 09/16/2015 6:29:00 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: CincyRichieRich
Use our law and out stupidity against us.

They have honed situations to a fine art. The action of getting on commercial flights and shifting seats, while praying is old hat. Something new. A war of nerves is what it is.

76 posted on 09/16/2015 6:41:01 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: CincyRichieRich

As a Nation, we can’t get any more stupider that to re-elect a muslin to rule the Nation. That completed what 2008 started.


77 posted on 09/16/2015 6:45:03 PM PDT by sport
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To: dinodino; roostercogburn; All

This case has me quite upset, because it is more of the secular humanists consolidating their power, through the false claims of racism, through Twitter practically running our country, and through Dem politicians and outfits like the NY Times making political hay of this.

I agree on this kid likely being a troublemaker, and that’s what led to all of this. Now notice, I said likely. I’m going on a lot of evidence, but I’m sure. That’s versus the other side, which as usual these days, jumps to self-righteous conclusions that this boy was an innocent victim.

What SHOULD happen is that everyone involved is looked at closely.

And maybe that’s partly already been done. Way down at the bottom of NY Times story, the school says they’d like to release more info but can’t unless the boy’s family agrees. That is likely to be behavioral/conduct information.

From what I understand, this boy just made the clock to show his teacher. It was not an assignment, so it’s not like there would be a lot of kids running around with their own science projects so teachers would feel reassured.

I also don’t believe for a single second that he didn’t know people wouldn’t look at this and think it could be a bomb. And the fact that he is maintaining otherwise as he did with his English teacher, apparently, according to him, too ignorant to realize how others might see it, says to me that he is likely very high on the manipulative/deceptive/exploitative scale. The last shot of him on the evening news was him going inside his house with a big smile, flashing the peace sign like a rock star. I think he is quite possibly one of those people who gets a rise out of doing something “extra clever” like this, where the social manipulation of getting people to defend him and getting other people with justified concerns in trouble, and the worldwide attention, is the real “science project,” the real narcissistic trip. That’s what it seems to me, but I’m willing to hold out for an investigation. He should NOT just be assumed to be innocent, given all the reasons he’s given others to doubt him.

And school staff, particularly outside of science, aren’t trained in recognizing fake versus real bombs, or real or fake guns for that matter. They are not required to be able to tell the difference, and that’s entirely reasonable to my mind.

I would also think that the English teacher when he/she was concerned that it could be a bomb, and didn’t know, HAD to contact the principal right away. That English teacher couldn’t investigate the situation. Investigating such things is for the police. Having the thought that someone might have a bomb is a mandatory reporting situation, and as quickly as possible because someone intent on setting off a bomb could possibly do so at any second.

Maybe the engineering teacher dropped the ball. It is reported he told the student not to show any other teachers. Perhaps he should have told the student to keep it with him all day, particularly if he otherwise would have to have drag it to other classes. But for all we know, perhaps he DID suggest that to this kid, but the kid wanted it discovered just to create such a situation where he could manipulate others and he was so clever to have created plausible denial and victim status ahead of time. The kid might also have assured him he wasn’t going to take this to any other classes.

I’m leaning towards that Ahmed thought this was a much more “high tech” bomb than an actual bomb, and much safer for him, and he was motivated either by anger at others (like other teens who commit Columbine-type attacks are), or he did it for Islam, or both.

I also am truly disturbed by the claim there was any “racism” over his **religion** involved. This is a SCHOOL setting, where in the past many native-born students have been charged with making bombs or bomb threats. In a SCHOOL setting, people are more likely to think “troubled teen” than Islam. And people HAVE to react to that. As the police suggested, he just WAS coy with them, like he couldn’t imagine how on earth anyone could have any suspicions or concerns. Things could possibly turn out differently, but from what I’ve learned so far, he seems disingenuous.

I also note this: The NY Times article about this is 36 paragraphs, if I counted right.

1. Innocent student just wanted to build a clock.
2. He ended up in handcuffs and juvenile detention because of it.
3. This caused a national furor (online) as many people (secular humanists/Islamists) suggested he was targeted for his religion.
4. Even Pres. Obama tweeted support to him.
5. Obama’s staff invited him to the White House, as his spokesman said the incident was a case of “unreasoned prejudiced.”
6. Ahmed appeared at a news conference at his house, waving to reporters as his family gave reporters pizza and drinks. He is transferring school’s and accepted the President’s invitation.
7. Josh Earnest quoted: “a good illustration of pernicious stereotypes.”
8. Earnest again: “it’s clear that at least some of Ahmed’s teachers failed him.” A “teachable moment” to “search (ourselves)...for biases.”
9. The episode provoked a discussion about bias and “improper police conduct toward a nonwhite, Muslim student...”
10. Ibrahim Hooper: would not have happened if he didn’t have a Muslim name and heritage.
11. Hooper: the fault of Islamophobia, businesses declaring themselves “Muslim-free zones.”
12. People posted selfies with clocks.
13. Hillary Clinton and Mark Zuckerberg tweeted support to Ahmed.
14. Zuckerberg: Come by Facebook.
15. Ahmed: happy for support from Obama, Clinton, and Zuckerberg, praised Allah, says he “built a clock and got in a lot of trouble for it.”

—————Where WHAT HAPPENED actually begins to be discussed-————
16. Ahmed said he made the clock of a digital face and inexpensive box and brought it to show his teacher, who said it was “nice,” but not to show it around.
17. But it beeped during English class, and she said it looked like a bomb.
18. Ahmed described how he was eventually taken from school by police, and interrogated.
19. He said he was fingerprinted and mug shots were taken.
20. “The clock had a digital display, built into a metal case with a circuit board.”
21. Irving police chief said the police were justified in detaining the teen based on the information they had.
22. Police weren’t pursuing charges, however.
23. No evidence to support there was intention to create alarm, the chief said.
24. Chief was asked about if Ahmed had been white and said he would have been treated the same.
25. Ahmed: bomb was in a cheap box you could get from Target.
26. Ahmed: it made me feel like a criminal.
27. Irving S.D.: information released was “unbalanced” but they couldn’t comment further due to federal privacy laws.
28. I.S.D.: would release more information if Ahmed’s family consented in writing.
29. Twitter users: #IStandWithAhmed
30. The story generated jokes.
31. Police spokesman said Ahmed never claimed his device was anything but a clock.
32. But officers didn’t believe he was giving them the whole story.
33. Police: said it was a clock but gave no “broader explanation.”
34. Police: could be mistaken for a bomb if left somewhere; wondered why he built it.
35. School released a letter afterward about reporting suspicious behavior.
36. Letter mentioned the incident.
(Includes photo of the letter, via Twitter, with the comment, “just in case @irvingisd disappears it....”)

- I have a problem with the New York Times and all of the other secular humanist outfits assuming that they know 1 and 2 as listed above are true. Of course, they don’t, and they know that, but this is all about the culture war, the war for political power between Christians and secular humanists, so truth doesn’t matter when winning and losing are at stake.

- The New York Times article, like most of the media coverage, doesn’t even really investigate what happened, including if the English teacher was required to report her suspicion, but actually just concurs that social media and Dem politicians and VIPs got it right.

- From what the school and police said, it suggests he was aloof and not fully cooperative, wanting to make them look bad, “racist,” and overzealous.


78 posted on 09/16/2015 6:45:25 PM PDT by Faith Presses On ("After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations...")
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To: discostu

That was a former clock destroyed to make a bomb component. Practice makes perfect.


79 posted on 09/16/2015 7:24:20 PM PDT by mcshot (We have but our word and honor - 0 has 0.)
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To: sunrise_sunset

BS.

Bunch of hysterical women running the schools.


80 posted on 09/16/2015 7:52:39 PM PDT by x1stcav (Leftism is like rust: It corrodes 24 hours a day until eradicated.)
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