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Pacifist Homeowner Disarms, Shoots, and Kills Invasion Suspect
Ammoland ^ | 19 September, 2015 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 09/19/2015 6:42:30 PM PDT by marktwain

Arizona – -(Ammoland.com)- On a remote property on Perdiz Canyon Road, off of Highway 165, in New Mexico, a 59-year-old homeowner says that he woke up to find an intruder in his home.  The house is out of sight of the gate, down a long, dirt track that serves as a driveway.  The intruder is said to have sprayed the homeowner’s dog with pepper spray, then used a gun after the homeowner woke up.  From koat.com:

“(The intruder) fired a shot that went just wide of my client’s hip,” Cravens said.

Cravens said his client used his cane to knock the gun out of the intruder’s hand. According to authorities, the homeowner fired a fatal shot from that gun.

Sticks, batons, and any long, relatively hard object can be used very effectively as an improvised weapon.  Police have stopped using durable flashlights as impact weapons because so many suspects were being killed or severely injured.  It is well worth the while to learn some simple stick fighting techniques to defend yourself.  Sticks can be carried almost anywhere without suspicion or special permits.  Whether the homeowner had any training or simply used instinct and got lucky is unknown  from the published account.

(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: arizona; banglist; invader; nm; pacifist
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Even a pacifist may defend themselves from an attack in their own home.
1 posted on 09/19/2015 6:42:30 PM PDT by marktwain
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So the pacifist knocked the gun out of the bad guy’s hand, with his cane. Then beat the guy to the gun and shot and killed him.... while the dog lays on the ground whimpering after having his eyes sprayed with pepper spray.... somehow this sounds like a movie.


2 posted on 09/19/2015 6:45:46 PM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: marktwain

Love it!


3 posted on 09/19/2015 6:47:04 PM PDT by basil ( God bless the USA!)
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To: marktwain

Never bring a gun to a cane fight.....


4 posted on 09/19/2015 6:48:28 PM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: marktwain

A pacifist in theory, but only if it’s other people who are getting killed.


5 posted on 09/19/2015 6:50:04 PM PDT by Bob (No, being a US Senator and the Secretary of State are not accomplishments; they're jobs.)
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To: kjam22; marktwain

Yep, a movie with a happy ending.


6 posted on 09/19/2015 6:51:22 PM PDT by jazusamo (0bama to go 'full-Mussolini' after elections: Mark Levin....and the turkey has.)
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To: Bob
"A pacifist in theory, but only if it’s other people who are getting killed."

Funny anecdote...when my wife was getting her PhD in chemistry, she shared lab space with a gen-u-wine hippy pacifist, who went on and on about how violence was bad, never accomplished anything. Then he came upon some enterprising Amish citizen liberating the radio from his van. He ended up chasing the guy down the street with a baseball bat.

7 posted on 09/19/2015 6:54:02 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (Newly fledged NRA Life Member (after many years as an "annual renewal" sort))
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To: marktwain

Good on this guy.

In general, I despise pacifists. It is a cowardly, suicidal, stupid, and dishonest position. Almost all pacifists will fight on their own behalf. They just won’t fight on your behalf.


8 posted on 09/19/2015 6:54:13 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I've switched. Trump is my #1. He understands how to get things done. Cruz can be VP.)
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To: marktwain

Staff Fighting Techniques

Quarterstaff Fighting Stance

As with any fighting technique, your initial stance is of fundamental importance to the likelihood that you’ll be successful in your attempts to attach an enemy or defend yourself. Your feet should be set a little wider than shoulder width apart with one foot in front of the other. You should be facing your opponent with your dominant foot closer to him and your other foot behind you in support. The staff should be held by your non-dominant hand at the base of the weapon. The other hand should be placed a quarter of the way up the staff. Many believe this is why the weapon is called a quarterstaff. There are a number of different pictures available online if you feel you need a little extra help getting the proper stance down.

Avoiding the Downward Strike

The most common attack with a quarterstaff is the downward strike. The most common starting place for most combatants learning quarterstaff fighting techniques is how to defend themselves against the downward strike. You want to begin by stepping to the inside of your adversary, avoiding the potentially devastating blow. At the same time, you want to drop your top hand so that you can deliver a blow with the quarterstaff as it is parallel to the ground. The key to this move is to deliver your blow and avoid your enemy’s attack in one smooth motion. Once you have attacked your enemy’s mid-section, it is instructed that you deliver and overhead blow to the back of your enemy as they crouch over in pain.

Common Defense Maneuver

There are two common defense maneuvers utilized with the quarterstaff. The first is to simply block any overhead blow by moving your dominant hand which should be placed a quarter of the way up the staff. The bottom hand should remain stationary and the dominant hand should move in the direction that the blow is coming from. The second is a defense move used to block a sweeping leg attack. This involves switching the position of the bottom hand and the top hand without releasing them from the quarterstaff.

Read more : http://www.ehow.com/way_5304629_quarterstaff-fighting-techniques.html


9 posted on 09/19/2015 6:54:57 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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I am a little bit skeptical - sounds a bit too much like a movie.

Maybe the pacifist doesn't want his friends to know that he was actually packing heat?

10 posted on 09/19/2015 6:58:42 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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"A pacifist in theory, but only if it’s other people who are getting killed."

Exactly

11 posted on 09/19/2015 7:00:33 PM PDT by TheTimeOfMan
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To: marktwain

"You're a pacifist !!!"


12 posted on 09/19/2015 7:02:46 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: marktwain

Wouldn’t the fact that he killed the intruder make him an ex-pacifist?


13 posted on 09/19/2015 7:05:24 PM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: marktwain

Especially when he is a pot farmer. Follow on story- the home owner had over a hundred plants and a medium sum of cash.


14 posted on 09/19/2015 7:07:57 PM PDT by jd87031
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To: SuzyQue

Not a very committed pacifist! LOL


15 posted on 09/19/2015 7:09:59 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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Wouldn’t the fact that he killed the intruder make him an ex-pacifist?

Close.

It makes the intruder a pacifist...

16 posted on 09/19/2015 7:13:28 PM PDT by null and void (Liberals: 2002, Bring the war home!/2015, bring 100,000 musim 'refugees' here NOW!)
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To: SuzyQue

Maybe just a part time pacifist.


17 posted on 09/19/2015 7:19:13 PM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: Bob

Pacifist pacified intruder.


18 posted on 09/19/2015 7:22:11 PM PDT by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Well, depending “who you are”, I may not fight on your behalf. I wouldn’t also just go into a fight I didn’t know anything about either, you may end up helping the wrong person.

And in this day and age I would not fight for many categories of people in this country. The baby butchers for one, liberal marxists that despise me, another. Anti-religious assh0les are a third. Illegal immigrants swarming into the country like flies, a fourth.


19 posted on 09/19/2015 7:31:31 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: marktwain

Without the perp assuming room temperature, it almost sounds like a Seinfeld episode.....

Does sound like a ‘good shoot’ to me of course some Lib will say he shouldn’t have hit him AFTER dropping the gun and that once the ‘old dude’ had the gun, he was out of danger.

Not me....’But officer, I was scared as he was moving and knew he could disarm me with little effort’
I called 911 and you were among the first here and he had almost stopped bleeding.......


20 posted on 09/19/2015 7:35:56 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)"I start feeling that IÂ’m Diagonally Parked In A Parallel Universe".)
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