Posted on 09/21/2015 6:37:40 PM PDT by george76
Speaker John Boehner's future was on Rep. Henry Cuellar's mind when he was speaking with fellow House Democrats last week.
The question they were mulling: Would they throw Boehner a lifeline and save his job if he needed their votes to survive?
"Heck yes!" Cuellar said in an interview when asked if he'd consider it.
The Texas Democrat is one of more than a dozen House Democrats who told CNN they'd be willing to vote to keep Boehner in place if he faces a rebellion from the tea party wing of his caucus this fall. In interviews, a number of Democrats said they would use the dilemma as leverage to demand Boehner take a list of unspecified actions before casting a vote to spare his speakership.
The openness of Democrats to help the Ohio Republican could give Boehner more breathing room as he faces a revolt from roughly two dozen House conservatives who are plotting how to boot him from his position because, they believe, he has not taken a more confrontational line with resident Barack Obama.
"If you look clinically at every instance in which John Boehner was in trouble with his own caucus, you'll notice that Democrats were always there to put things over the top," said Rep. Steve Israel, a New York Democrat and close ally of House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi.
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If Democrats were to save Boehner's job, it would likely have major implications on how he runs the chamber
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Would the dems rather have Behnor or a tea party conservative in charge? Hmmm...?
If he has to rely on dims to stay as Speaker, I would think he would lose a ton more Republicans then he has lost now.
True. No difference between before Boehner, after Pelosi.
If Boehner had any character, he would resign if he did not have the support of the majority of Republicans.
You always save your own.
Republican kept in power by democrats.
You now know who holds his leash.
If the man had any shame he would step down.
To have the “opposition” party rescue tells us all we need to know. (And actually already knew.)
The Democrats like the opposition leader to be a lazy, alcoholic.
sure the D’s will save Boner, he’s working for them and especially Obama (and very effectively too)
, a number of Democrats said they would use the dilemma as leverage to demand Boehner take a list of unspecified actions before casting a vote to spare his speakership.
The Democrats never, ever quit. They just keep on coming. That’s why they keep winning on the issues.
Is there someone willing to primary Boner?
Trump needs to announce that he will fund a conservative challenge to Boner and anyone who supports him.
Just cant wait to hear what that sumbitch has done to warrant the black mail.
Boehner is toast eventually. What we need to be thinking about is how to avoid a repeat.
I’ll just call him for what boehner is; a turncoat traitor.
What kind of dipsticks live in OH-8?
Very, very similar to those that voted in the last Kentucky Senate election.
Benedict Boehner show switch parties.
John Boehner's fate as Speaker of the House is but a symptom of the deepening division within the party between those adhering to a pay for play mode of governing on the one hand and a conservative and populist (to flirt with an oxymoron) revolt among the grass roots on the other hand. The rift will only deepen as the party moves toward nominating its presidential contender.
If the party nominates a conservative, and there is now arguably only one conservative left with a realistic chance, Ted Cruz, the question will be whether the establishment wing of the party openly opposes him after the nomination? The next question is, will they covertly subvert his campaign after the nomination?
If the party nominates Donald Trump it is likely that the establishment will be happy to forfeit the election rather than see him victorious. They say they will do this to protect the country and the party but they are primarily concerned with protecting their rice bowls. A Trump nomination only hastens the divorce, which is one of the two good reasons to support Donald Trump.
The dividing line triggering support or opposition in nominating a candidate is support or opposition to immigration which is really a metaphor for survival of conservative values in our politics as well as in our culture. Interestingly, the question of immigration also divides conservatives. In my view, there are only two reasons in this world to support Donald Trump and the second is his position on immigration. The pundits on Fox last night cited a lack of energetic campaigning as the reason for Scott Walker's political demise. That is the establishment view but the conservative view is that Scott Walker lost us when he diddled over immigration. Immigration is the key to this election, it is the explanation for Donald Trump's ascendancy, however temporary or permanent, and it is the ultimate question for Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz must clearly defined his position on immigration in a manner agreeable to conservatives or he will never move from his current post position to leadership down the home stretch.
Immigration is the litmus test and Marco Rubio has failed it. His traitorous association with the gang of eight on amnesty has disqualified him in conservative eyes but it has certified him as the kind of sellout most desirable to the Rino establishment. Will the establishment succeed in nominating Rubio? If so, will conservatives support him, oppose him, hold their noses and vote for him, or sit on their hands? Hard-core conservatives will clearly oppose him but the bulk of the Republican party base will probably accept him.
If Rubio is elected how would he govern? My guess is that he would govern much the same way that George Bush governed and Jeb Bush would govern: With an aggressive foreign policy and and accommodative domestic policy increasing spending, borrowing, taxing and doing no substantive good to ward off the inevitable fiscal reckoning to which the country is hurtling. He certainly will not staunch the flow of immigration, much less deport anyone, and after he gets his eight years, the devil takes the hindmost because we will ever see another conservative president after Ronald Reagan as conservatism is washed away in a wave of immigration.
Marco Rubio is the best chance the establishment has of seizing the nomination for their side and the best chance of winning the general election. The question is whether conservatives will tolerate a traitor as their nominee or will they do it is inevitable, break away when their revolt can really hurt the establishment or will they abide the election only to fall away with a whimper?
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