Whoopsie – Federal Elections Commission Opens Inquiry…(Cruz/Carly PACs)

The Conservative Treehouse ^ | September 25, 2015 | sundance

[brothers4thID]

More information: https://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2015/09/04/the-perplexing-case-of-the-ted-cruz-super-pacs/

FYI Keep the Promise I is breaking no laws by donating to multiple candidates. Other PAcs do it as well. It does appear hinky that money donated (presumably) for the purpose of electing Cruz should be spent on another candidate.

I like the theory that the super PAC guys wanted a stalking horse, someone who could go after Hillary without seeming anti-woman.

[BlackFemaleArmyColonel]

:) Thanks.

I am who I say I am.:)

God bless.

[ScottWalkerForPresident2016]

These story is exactly why I think Trump is my current favorite.

All the other major candidates are owned by somebody. They all have multimillionaire/billionaire sugar daddies that have flooded their Super-PACs with tons of loot.

Trump isn't financially-beholden to anyone.

[brothers4thID]

I know you’re just quoting, but there’s no legal jeopardy here unless the PAC refuses to comply with the request. They probably will claim clerical error and enter the right code for the expenditure. Donating to a campaign that is not one you’ve stated to support is not illegal. Hinky and eyebrow raising, but not illegal.

[dragnet2]

Ya mean the source on this is a liberal site?

[BlackFemaleArmyColonel]

I don’t know. We’ll see.

[dragnet2]

Could you possibly answer #51 for me?

Thanks!

[scooby321]

You don't go after Plan Parenthood , Carly they are going to destroy you. The have give Obama over 12 Million what did you expect.

[SeaHawkFan]

Maybe Carly was real short of money and th r pro-Cruz PAC wanted to give her a reason to endorse Ted when she eventually drops out.

[Democrat_media]

Politicians are all owned by internationalist donors and foreign interests. Wonder why none of them ever say anything against China or Mexico? They are owned by China and Mexico.

Only Trump speaks out against China and Mexico because only Trump is not owned by them nor by any body.

[Califreak]

Veerrry interesting.....

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

Well the candidates aren’t supposed to know anything about it. They’re incommunicado. That said, Carly clearly would know about it, because everywhere she goes she has her PAC. They’re at her events, organizing, doing the recruitment for volunteers. The only difference between them and Carly’s actual campaign is that they have a small sticker on their literature that says “We’re a Super PAC!”. They’re basically running her campaign.

If you’re asking “does no one know who is doing the funding?” Well, we know who is funding these PACs. They publish the names of them every so often I believe. Fiorina’s, for example, receives its largest donations from a Univision goon. That oughta tell you all you need to know about Carly.

[House Atreides]

I know you’re just quoting, but there’s no legal jeopardy here unless the PAC refuses to comply with the request. They probably will claim clerical error and enter the right code for the expenditure. Donating to a campaign that is not one you’ve stated to support is not illegal. Hinky and eyebrow raising, but not illegal.
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I think you’re right. This appears to be a “Super PAC” and the essence of those is that they are purely INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURE operations. They could spend money trying to get folks to write in John Boehner’s name for Dog Catcher and that would likely be perfectly legal.

[Gene Eric]

Smells like a simple case of fraud, or improper change of charter...

[brothers4thID]

SuperPACs are specifically forbidden from coordinating with campaigns on expenditures. To do so would be a epic -level FUBAR that only an idiot would do.

Does that mean staffers with several layers of insulation from the candidate don’t make off-hand “You know what would help us” comments over drinks? You have to be a special kind of naive to believe that doesn’t happen.

Again, though, nothing in FEC regulations prevents a SuperPAC from donating to multiple campaigns.

More info for you: http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2012/01/31/nine-things-you-need-know-about-super-pacs/

[dragnet2]

If you’re asking “does no one know who is doing the funding?” Well, we know who is funding these PACs.

I see.

Hypothetically, so a political insider PAC that takes say, $3,200,000 from pro-X candidate and gives it to pro-Y candidate, the X candidate has no clue how much money their pro insider PACs are getting, or if they're even broke?

[brothers4thID]

Neither, really. See my post with more information on SuperPAC rules.

[rhinohunter]

If candidates are legally prohibited from coordinating with these PACs, it stands to reason that the PACs of anti-establishment candidates may not necessarily be operating in the best interests of these candidates.

[dragnet2]

So the political campaign staffs commonly chat all about the big "donations" it at the bar? I wouldn't be one bit surprised!☺ Maybe this is all a fraudulent story.

[brothers4thID]

Nah, donors are listed on FEC filings. The only exception would be the “Rusdian nesting doll” situation as posted in the link I provided. Example: a corporation gives 1million , the corporation is listed as the donor, not the board members who donated the $ to the company fund.

In this case we know precisely who donated the funds that constitute this fund.