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To: conservativegranny

Very detailed and articulate analysis of Ted Cruz. I’ve seen it before and read the resume. He appears to be a stalwart conservative and has all the bona fides to back it up. However, in his adult life he has not done anything in the “real world”. He has not worked in the private sector. He has not built a business, made payroll, hired/employed/fired employees to/from a payroll that is of his own doing, not on taxpayer dollars. There is no doubt he has a tremendous understanding of the Constitution, probably better than any other candidate. However, like it or not, fair or not, he’s been in the Senate, even during a majority, a weak, feckless Senate (I know, McConnell is the leader, not Cruz)and also made several questionable votes and is not far off from the GOPe on issues such as amnesty. He is most known for “shutting down the government” (which I supported) and reading Green Eggs and Ham during a filibuster. He is a pariah. He allowed the media and the RINO leadership to paint a narrative about him. He appears to be just “part of the problem” with the exception of a core constituency. His polling numbers show that. Great crowds of conservatives in the hundreds to maybe a thousand. He’s got to be able to able to the masses, or at least enough of them, to get out of the primaries let alone the general. Perhaps he will be able to do that.

Trump, warts and all, lacking Cruz’ conservative bona fides is an open book. He will say it like it is and he is known for doing things and getting things done. He has not been involved in politics and is not beholden to any special interest groups. He cares about America (yes, and himself) and making it great again and fixing the serious problems we’re facing after a generation of the uniparty and the last six years of transformation into a European style socialist state. He has the charisma and stones to take on the media and the establishment. Just look what has happened in the last 100 days. The narrative would NEVER have been on illegal immigration and building a wall. Fox News has been shown for what they are and many “conservative” pundits are now showing their true colors. Trump doesn’t let anyone paint a narrative of him. He is the narrative. He exhibits leadership and an “in charge” persona. We so desperately need that both in this country and across the world. Because of his outsider position, he is appealing to segments that Cruz would never be able to reach, fair or not. I think Cruz can be most effective in an AG or SOCTUS position, perhaps VP where he can learn to work on his appeal and delivery. No doubt, if Cruz is the nominee, I will support him. I don’t think he is the answer at this time. This is a very different time and I think the last 100 days has shown this.


82 posted on 09/27/2015 5:55:09 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: ripnbang

” However, in his adult life he has not done anything in the “real world”. He has not worked in the private sector. He has not built a business, made payroll, hired/employed/fired employees to/from a payroll that is of his own doing, not on taxpayer dollars.”

You have just shown me that you didn’t read the post in it’s entirety. He has had multiple jobs in the private sector in his adult life from teaching, clerking for law firms and in private law practice. Those jobs were not paid for with taxpayer dollars.

He worked multiple jobs in the private sector while in college. He also formed is own business as a young man when he worked for a water softner company hiring others to work for him, paying wages etc. He learned a lot from doing that and talks about why the little business didn’t succeed. What he learned from that helped to form some of his opinions.

To keep repeating something that isn’t true when you are shown it isn’t true is very troubling.

I never said he was 100% on the money with every vote he made. I think it has been explained over and over again here on FR the strategy that was in play with the treaty vote. If you compare the other candidates who have voting records you will find that he has the best and most conservative of all of the candidates. The one nice thing about not being a politician is that you can say whatever you want people to hear and you have no voting record to come back to haunt you. If you want to put your faith in someone who used to be a dem with no voting record that is up to you.

“not far off from the GOPe on issues such as amnesty. “

I disagree. What is your definition of amnesty? Temporary work permits? And as Trump supporter have said of their candidate “Maybe he can be persuaded or will evolve”. I don’t support more work permits but like I said, compare him to the others. I only have 3 strikes against him on my list. All of the others have plenty more.

You can disagree with me and prefer Trump if you like but please get your facts straight if you are going to criticize another candidate. Ted Cruz has worked in government jobs but he also worked in the private sector in multiple jobs, paid his way through school earning scholarships, working in the private sector and through student loans which he worked to pay back. As for being a pariah in the Congress do you really think Donald Trump would be welcomed with open arms? How well do you think he would have been received if he had been a senator? How well do you think the Congress will receive him as POTUS? You may think he is great but he will face the same difficulties as POTUS as Ted Cruz would. My list of negatives for Donald Trump is much longer than 3 questionable votes and I have a huge trust issue with the man.

As for FOX news I haven’t watched for 4 years now. I didn’t need Donald Trump to show me what FOX was all about. I knew that already. If he does damage to FOX it will make quite a few liberals happy no? It was a dream of theirs to take that network down and discredit it and Trump may just fulfill that dream for them. I see the man much differently than you do. I see him as a pied piper or even maybe a Trojan horse at the worst and probably will be a huge disappointment to his supporters if he is elected. I would not vote for him if he were the nominee. I can only vote for someone who I truly believe is a the most conservative candidate.I also am an independent so feel no party loyalty to vote for whomever the GOP decides upon.

If Donald Trump is elected I sincerely hope that I am wrong and that you are right. For all of our sakes. But if I am right, I will reserve the right to say “I told you so”:)


98 posted on 09/27/2015 4:51:57 PM PDT by conservativegranny (Cruz 2016)
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