Climate Change on Mars?

RUSH: Here's Cory in Wichita. Glad you called, great to have you on the program, Cory, hi.

CALLER: Hey, it's great to be here. Thank you very much. Giga dittos, Rush, Mega isn't enough. Once again your prescience has paid off. At the noon news hour here in Wichita, I heard ABC interviewing the NASA scientist talking about the water on Mars --

CALLER: So the ABC reporter, I can't remember her name, did come on and say, "Mars may have been more like earth at one time," but she basically related it to climate change may have brought about its desolate condition now. She didn't say those words, but pretty much they were equating climate change to Mars' condition now. And I was just floored when I heard them say that.

RUSH: Well, wait a minute, wait a minute. You said that the ABC infobabe did that in her question. What did the NASA guy say in response?

CALLER: Oh, no, it wasn't even an interview. She was just playing his sound bite, talking about it.

RUSH: Oh! That's why I misunderstood. Journalists don't do that very much. That's why I was confused.

CALLER: Yeah, that's why I had to get a hold of you, I had to call in. I've been trying for almost 30 years to call you. I had to get in on this one. I could improve your percentage of being right, because this one did it in minutes, not weeks, days, months --

RUSH: Yeah, but we have to honest. This is just an infobabe doing it, and I'll take being right. I mean, I'm never gonna throw that out. But until the NASA people say it -- we know the Drive-Bys. That's why I was curious. She wasn't interviewing the NASA guy. She was doing a report on the NASA guy, and she said, she just opined, she just offered that it could well be that there had been climate change on Mars. Imagine that. And equating it to, of course, what's happening.

There's climate change every freaking place in the universe, for crying out loud. There's climate change on Jupiter. The climate's changing everywhere. Everything everywhere is always changing. Nothing is static. Everything changes always. But I will not be proven right until some NASA guy -- and it'll happen. Even if he's led to it in questioning by a Drive-By journalist, until an actual scientist makes the claim I will not actually say I've been right yet.

RUSH: Well, I think we can proclaim that I have been right. US News & World Report today, quote, "Eons ago, ancient Mars had 'an extensive atmosphere,' along with 'an ocean two-thirds the size of the northern hemisphere and a mile deep,' said Jim Green, director of planetary science at NASA said during a press conference on Monday." Okay, now, look, how do they know that? How do they know that there was an ocean two-thirds the size of the northern hemisphere and that it was a mile deep? We haven't been there. We haven't probed a mile down on Mars.

You may not remember this. Folks, I'm sorry if you think I'm a natural skeptic. It's not that I distrust as a matter of course. I've learned this. And it really hasn't taken any more than the propaganda and the phony science of global warming to make me doubt. I mean, we've had people claiming, starting in '88, that we had 10 years to clean the oceans or we were gonna die. Or in 1982 that we had 20 years to stop global warming or that was gonna be the end of this or the polar bears were dying. The North Pole was supposed to have melted by now. None of it's come true.

These are all predictions about many, many years in the future, minimum 20 years, most likely 50 to a hundred years, and there's safety in a prediction like that because nobody's gonna be alive to know whether it came true or not. It doesn't take any courage to predict what something's gonna be 50 years from now or a hundred. It does take courage to predict what climate's gonna do in the next three years, and you note we never hear that, do we? You ever hear a climate prediction for 2017. Have you heard a climate prediction, sea levels, arctic ice, any other aspects of global warming or climate change, do you hear any predictions of the next two years or three? No.

The only predictions we get are for 30 years from now, 50, 100 years from now. But never tomorrow, never next month, never next year. Which do you think would be easier to predict? Next year or a hundred years from now? And then realize all this stuff is not based on any data whatsoever. It's all based on computer models predicting things. This guy, Mr. Green, Jim Green at NASA, may be a perfectly nice guy, but, I'm sorry, the days where I listen to some scientist come out and say, "Yeah, two-thirds of Mars used to be covered with water and it was a mile deep," because what comes next, he's the director of planetary science at NASA, and he said, "After an unknown catastrophe, 'Mars suffered a major climate change and lost its surface water.'"

Now, doesn't that fit amazingly well with the scaremongering they are engaging in about planet Earth? Was it Mars' version of Hurricane Katrina, do you think? Was there a President Bush on Mars at the time? (interruption) No, no, no, Mr. Snerdley, I'm not joking here. I'm really serious about this. An unknown catastrophe, unknown. How do we know that? If we're gonna admit that it was an unknown catastrophe, how in the name of Sam Hill do we know what it was and that it was brought on by climate change? Yes siree bob, that's what it was, folks. After an unknown catastrophe, Mars suffered a major climate change and lost its surface water.

Well, of course that's different than what they're saying here. The unknown catastrophes here are known, and they're gonna cause us to be flooded by surface water. In 2007, February 28, National Geographic, "Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says." This is National Geographic eight years ago saying that data that we had collected on Mars now tends to indicate that it's the sun, and not man, that's causing changes on earth. Do you think anybody today is gonna go back and revisit that story in light of the discovery of flowing water on Mars?

This is no different than a five-year-old girl being rehearsed and programmed to walk out to visit the pope in the middle of the street in Washington and hand him a note asking him for his support on illegal immigration. Sorry, folks, I'm not buying any of it. The evidence suggests that you shouldn't either. National Geographic had a long story just eight years ago, same scientists discovered that solar activity is what destroyed Mars. But now today it's climate change, unknown catastrophe brought on by climate change. I think this is -- word for this -- not "criminal." But this is dangerously incompetent. This is the attempted manipulation of people. To me this is hideous, to try to make something like this certain without doubt.

I don't know. It just irritates the heck out of me. Unknown catastrophe. We know that an unknown catastrophe some years ago brought about by climate change destroyed all the water on Mars. And you watch how many people are gonna be running around talking about it now. "Yeah, it was really bad on Mars. Did you hear what happened on Mars?" Why couldn't they have discovered a Starbucks up there so half of the Looney Tunes on this planet would want to leave. Why couldn't this falling water they've discovered be a Starbucks or something or a giant Nike store?

We need to send Sheila Jackson Lee, All the dimwitted celebritards that believe in Global Warming even though they don't understand science, Algore, "Hockey Stick" Mann, the pope...

Plus, he's not the only one who believes man-made global warming is happening and is a grave threat to humanity...

Jane Fonda sounds climate change alarm in Toronto
The Star ^ | July 4, 2015 | Christopher Reynolds

"The climate change problem is the issue of our civilization. It will affect everything about our lives if we don’t do something about it," she [Jane Fonda] says.
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Here's Hanoi Jane remarking on the agenda that Obama refers to as (quote)
"The fundamental transformation of the United States of America"...

November 22, 1970 -- During a fund-raising tour for GI deserters, Vietnam Veterans Against the War and the Black Panthers, Jane Fonda is quoted in the Detroit Free Press as telling a University of Michigan audience:

"I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would someday become communist," and "The peace proposal of the Viet Cong is the only honorable, just, possible way to achieve peace in Vietnam."
http://www.wintersoldier.com/index.php?topic=Timeline
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Fonda made the following statement at the University of Texas:
"We've got to establish a Socialist economic structure that will limit private profit-oriented businesses. Whether the transition is peaceful depends on the way our present governmental leaders react. We must commit our lives to this transition ...... We should be very proud of our new breed of soldier. It's not organized but it's mutiny, and they have every right." --Karen Elliott Dallas Morning News December 11, 1971

From 1972: "I am not a do-gooder, I am a revolutionary. A revolutionary woman."

“Charles Manson, the notorious cult leader, has broken a 20-year silence in an interview from his prison cell to warn the world of an impending apocalypse due to global warming.

[snip]

“Everyone’s God and if we don’t wake up to that there’s going to be no weather because our polar caps are melting because we’re doing bad things to the atmosphere,” he said.

“The automobiles and fossil fuels are destroying the atmosphere and we won’t have air to breathe.

Charles Manson breaks silence to warn of global warming
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8460868/Charles-Manson-breaks-silence-to-warn-of-global-warming.html

“The environment is suffering damage that could be irreversible — global warming, the greenhouse effect, the melting of the polar ice caps, the rising sea level, hurricanes — with terrible social occurrences that will shake life on this planet.”

“I believe this idea has a strong connection with reality. I don’t think we have much time. Fidel Castro said in one of his speeches I read not so long ago, ‘tomorrow could be too late, let’s do now what we need to do’.”

“I believe it is time that we take up with courage and clarity a political, social, collective and ideological offensive across the world — a real offensive that permits us to move progressively, over the next years, the next decades, leaving behind the perverse, destructive, destroyer, capitalist model and go forward in constructing the socialist model to avoid barbarism and beyond that the annihilation of life on this planet.”

—Hugo Chavez, at the 16th World Festival of Youth and Students, held in Caracas on August 8-15, 2005

Hugo Chavez - Speech Delivered at the 16th World Youth Festiva
http://mltoday.com/hugo-chavez-speech-delivered-at-the-16th-world-youth-festiva

* “I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would someday become communist” *

I suppose if anyone REALLY thought that they would pray on their knees to Satan.
God doesn't want people in that much misery. Besides, Communism rejects God.

Also, Jane, why did you marry a billionaire if you hate Capitalism so much?

Why is Jane living in America instead of a worker's paradise like North Korea?

“Do as I say, not as I do.”
~Jane Fonda

“What’s these Reds anyway?”
~Tom Joad

Well, Tom, someday you'll have a daughter that is a Red, but she's gonna marry a rich feller and claim that your model T is making the Earth heat up.

Does insanity run in the Joad family, Tom?

Also, Jane, why did you marry a billionaire if you hate Capitalism so much? Why is Jane living in America instead of a worker's paradise like North Korea?

Yet she STILL is out promoting communist causes. In 2007 or 2008, Fonda signed the Revolutionary Communist Party’s “World Can’t Wait” call. Check out some of the other big names on the list. They include John Conyers, Maxine Waters, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Hollyweird celebs, ex-US military (Brig. Gen. (Ret) Janis Karpinski)...

Endorsers of the [World Can’t Wait] Call Include:

James Abourezk, Aris Anagnos, Rocky Anderson, Anti-Flag, Edward Asner, Russell Banks, Ed Begley Jr., Harry Belafonte, St. Clair Bourne, Gabriel Byrne, Margaret Cho, Ward Churchill, Paulette Cole, US Rep John Conyers Jr., John Densmore, Jesse Diaz Jr., Michael Eric Dyson, Steve Earle, Niles Eldredge, Daniel Ellsberg, Eve Ensler, Laura Flanders, Jane Fonda, Martin Garbus, Senator Mike Gravel, Andre Gregory, Sam Hamill, Suheir Hammad, Rev. Jesse L. Jackson Jr., Mumia Abu-Jamal, Rickie Lee Jones, Sarah Jones, Brig. Gen. (Ret) Janis Karpinski, Jonathan Kozol, Rabbi Michael Lerner, US Rep. Cynthia McKinney, Robin Meyers, Mark Crispin Miller, Tom Morello, Viggo Mortensen, John Nichols, US Rep. Major Owens, Grace Paley, Harvey Pekar, Sean Penn, Michelle Phillips, Harold Pinter, Michael Ratner, Mark Ruffalo, US Rep. Bobby Rush, Susan Sarandon, Richard Serra, Jeff Sharlet, Rev. Al Sharpton, Cindy Sheehan, Martin Sheen, Nancy Spero, Gloria Steinem, Lynne Stewart, Serj Tankian, Sunsara Taylor, Studs Terkel, Gore Vidal, Kurt Vonnegut, Alice Walker, Naomi Wallace, US Rep. Maxine Waters, Cornel West, Ann Wright, Howard Zinn, and thousands more who have already joined us.

http://web.archive.org/web/20090226021454/http://worldcantwait.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2538&Itemid=2
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World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime is a Maoist-revolutionary movement organized by the Revolutionary Communist Party. (scroll down the list that appears (after clicking link) to find the World Can't Wait organization --rwor.org (now http://revcom.us/) is the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party):

http://web.archive.org/web/20060830212529/http://www.rwor.org/a/rwlink/links.htm
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From David Horowitz's FrontpageMag.com /DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
Profile: World Can't Wait (WCW)

*Revolutionary communist movement that stages protests against the Bush administration

*Organizes college and high-school students

*Founded in June 2005 by Charles Clark Kissinger, a longtime leader of the Revolutionary Communist Party

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7213
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The RCP calls for the armed overthrow of the U.S. government...

From the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party (revcom.us or rwor.org) :

"Create Public Opinion, Seize Power: We are preparing minds and organizing forces for the time when there is a major crack in the system, whenever it comes and wherever it comes from: an opening that makes it possible to bring the future Revolutionary Army of the Proletariat (R.A.P.) into the field and wage a revolutionary armed struggle that actually has a chance of winning.

And we have said that building our party itself is the most important part of organizing forces for revolution. This is true now, and it is true looking forward to the creation of that future R.A.P. and the waging of that armed struggle.":

http://revcom.us/a/v20/1000-1009/1000/barw.htm

And in 2009, FTA ("F*** The Army")...

February 16, 1971: Jane Fonda and Donald Sutherland form "FTA" (F*** The Army), an anti-war, anti-American road show that tours near Army bases in order to undermine troop morale. Skits and songs portray American defeats, soldiers refusing to fight, and the murder of officers by their troops. FTA cast members mingle with soldiers after the shows, encouraging them to desert or to sabotage the Army.

http://www.wintersoldier.com/index.php?topic=Timeline
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From Fonda's website, 2009!...

Rare Screening of Restored Archival Print of Classic Vietnam War-Era Documentary

What: Screening of FTA
When: Monday, February 2, 2009
7:00pm, 9:15pm
Where: IFC Center (map)
323 Sixth Avenue
New York, NY, US 10014

With Former FTA Cast Member Jane Fonda in Person
Monday, February 2 at 7:00pm and 9:15pm
7:00pm show sold out!

FTA (1972, Francine Parker), the Vietnam War-era documentary, will have an ultra-rare screening in a restored archival print with former FTA cast member Jane Fonda in person, Monday, February 2 at 7:00pm and 9:15pm; the 7:00pm show is sold out. Following the screening, Ms. Fonda will talk about the film and her work in the controversial antiwar touring show in a discussion moderated by David Zeiger, director of the recent documentary Sir! No Sir! A portion of the proceeds from the evening will benefit Iraq Veterans against the War, a nonprofit organization that advocates for ending the war and for providing support to returning service members.

Virtually unseen in any format since a brief theatrical run in 1972, FTA documents "the show the Pentagon couldn't stop." The revue, whose letters were said to stand both for Free Theater Associates and also Free (or, at times, another F-word) The Army, brought antiwar entertainment to military personnel at the height of Vietnam. Performers like Ms. Fonda, Donald Sutherland and Holly Near toured towns near military bases around the US and overseas, lending their support to troops who opposed the war. The film follows the troupe as it travels and performs near US military bases on the Pacific Rim -- Hawaii, Okinawa, the Philippines -- encouraging opposition to the war among the rank-and-file of US forces.

FTA is a gritty mix of rollicking performances and GI interviews, juxtaposing lighthearted political satire with the somber realities of war, occupation, and the absurdities of military life, a barbed rebuke to the staid USO program. From Okinawa to the Philippines, stirred by the show's provocative message, the members of the U.S. military find courage to speak out candidly in front of the camera.

Fonda and Sutherland are joined on stage by an all-star cast of musicians and activists including folk musician Len Chandler and comedian Paul Mooney. A fresh look at the Vietnam anti-war movement through the songs and skits that shook a generation, this film will leave you singing along with the fired-up men and women of the military. Foxtrot, Tango, Alpha... F*** the Army!

Print courtesy of the Academy Film Archive.

Tickets: $12 IFC Center members, $15 general admission.

http://web.archive.org/web/20090209113601/http://janefonda.com/category/my-appearances/
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1971 FTA trailer (3 min youtube video): Jane Fonda, Donald Sutherland:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HlkgPCgU7g

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