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1 posted on 10/05/2015 9:53:54 AM PDT by TroutStalker
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To: TroutStalker; sully777; vigl; Cagey; Abathar; A. Patriot; B Knotts; getsoutalive; muleskinner; ...

Rest In Peace, old friend, your work is finished.....

If you want ON or OFF the DIESEL ”KnOcK” LIST just FReepmail me.....

This is a fairly HIGH VOLUME ping list on some days.....

2 posted on 10/05/2015 9:58:54 AM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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They should have just put an air pump on the stupid things: “The solution to pollution is dilution”.

That’s how they did it in the 1970’s. Cars got lower mileage, but they werepolluting “less”...


3 posted on 10/05/2015 9:59:01 AM PDT by Don W ( When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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The real point here is that two of the world’s best automobile engineers could not design and build a diesel-powered car that could meet this country’s ridiculous emissions standards, especially those in California, even though the libs repeatedly promised that the technology could be mandated.


4 posted on 10/05/2015 9:59:53 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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These guys need to be jailed. Over 120 people died because of their faulty ignition switches.

Oh wait, that was General Motors.

This is just some nonsense about emissions.


5 posted on 10/05/2015 10:00:50 AM PDT by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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If you go back and read through Diesel innovation and technology development....there’s some peak that occurred in the late 1990s. As much as people want to suggest that there’s some great clean method to develop and utilize for the Diesel engine....it’s been twenty years and nothing has really occurred.

These two charming engineers probably reached a point where they admitted....you can have performance, durability and gas mileage....or you can have great emissions success. You can’t have all four. So, they cheated the system. It’s kinda like Captain Kirk in that silly scenario game at Star Fleet HQ’s....the only way to win....is to cheat.


6 posted on 10/05/2015 10:00:51 AM PDT by pepsionice
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Porsche’s Formula One and Le Mans racing engines,

= = =

Wait till they find out these engines were ‘engineered’ also, to met racing requirements.

That will be REALLY bad.


7 posted on 10/05/2015 10:01:01 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Using 4th keyboard due to wearing out the "/" and "s" on the previous 3)
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Earlier post: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3344738/posts
10 posted on 10/05/2015 10:10:42 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag necessary?)
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These two may be deeply involved, but as a quality engineer for an automotive electronics tier 1 supplier... there is no way they pulled this off themselves. Suppliers had to be involved, programmers, management, lots of support staff. This was not just a handful of people. Particularly given the multiple platforms involved. So if they just focus on these two and you never hear about anyone else being implicated, it’s a real failure to root out the whole rotten gang.


11 posted on 10/05/2015 10:11:28 AM PDT by Another Post-American (Jesus died for your sins.)
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I used to work for a large US automaker. We were testing small diesel engines in an assortment of passenger vehicles. This was about ten years ago The performance and fuel economy was exceptional.

I asked one of the powertrain engineers when I could buy one of these vehicles. His response was concrete: the US EPA will not allow us to sell these diesel equipped passenger vehicles on the US market, they are for export only.

He told me that they are too efficient, and the policy of the EPA is to forbid any engine that achieves anything over 40% thermal efficiency. The claim was that NOx emissions increased exponentially in engines that made more than 25% efficiency.

He also told me that the tradeoff was increased CO and CO2 emissions are preferred to NOx emissions, and this was driven solely by only one region of the country.

That is the main reason why I only buy and drive pre-OBDII equipped vehicles. Late 80’s and early 90’s vehicles get much better mileage than the current offerings in terms of size and weight.


13 posted on 10/05/2015 10:14:07 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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"The company has acknowledged that managers, struggling to meet U.S. sales targets, masked the emissions of new-car engines to sell so-called clean diesel technology to skeptical American consumers."

I wonder if any Morton Thiokol type communications will turn up. If any of you recall, they tried to pin the o-ring thing on the engineers, until that pesky memo turned up....

14 posted on 10/05/2015 10:18:27 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe (For every Allende, there is a Pinochet)
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What they did is to only way to meet the crazy regulations


18 posted on 10/05/2015 11:02:26 AM PDT by butlerweave
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Guessing this is what government regulators get when they try to legislate the impossible(with present technology).


20 posted on 10/05/2015 11:52:19 AM PDT by oldtech
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