Posted on 10/14/2015 4:20:47 AM PDT by RockyTCB
Health Care: With Jeb Bush's health-reform plan now on the table, a conservative consensus on replacing ObamaCare is emerging. So why is the GOP's putative front-runner still silent on the issue?
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Jeb! is a 1%-er now, isn’t he?
He comes complete with a 7 day hit and run posting history.
“Bush will NEVER get the nomination from the American people! Get over it!”
You are absolutely correct.
The GOPe will find some clever way to ram him down our throats regardless of what the American people want.
To fix this problem, just make congress subject to all laws it makes. Trump can EO it, and watch congress fix it in a day!
Note - this is the first and only time IBD will want a “conservative alternative to ObamaCare.”
The answer is very simple. Trump sets the agenda not the media.
Yes, you can substantially change and in many ways undercut it. But any "repeal and replace" will not get through.
Okay....repealing in its entirety is probably not an option because 1) our GOP leadership has no leadership in them - or balls, and 2)Obama would not sign it.
But with another President and realigned GOP leadership, I believe it could be repealed. At worst case with a bunch of quislings at the GOP helm, I do believe substantially gutting that law would accomplish the same thing, effectively, IF they could summon up something to put in their ball sacs.
But that doesn't address the biggest issue which is that even though you can have insurance, you can't afford the treatments, which are through the roof. Drugs, especially, are outrageous. My wife was on MS meds. $80k a year (vs. $2000 a year in Europe). The US subsidizes Europe and Canada. That has to stop. Unfortunately, it would likely involve gubment because all THEIR governments have price caps.
Okay, I understand your personal situation and I commiserate.
That said, I do not believe a blanket condemnation of the drug industry across the spectrum wrt cost is solely that industry’s fault. There are myriad of causes why this country ended up with the state of drug affairs and costs, and it didn’t begin, nor end with ObamaCare. Regulation, requirements, gate-keeping and bureaucracy are also a large factor - and that existed long before ObamaCare.
There must be some trade policy remedies to the pharma cost issue. My FIL has had MS since he was 21, so I know how much what you are going through costs. My son is a type 1 diabetic - that’s an expensive disease too.
We need to kill the monopsonies that Europe and Canada are allowed to maintain. They are no more legal than a monopoly would be here in the US. It’s a massive tax on everyone in the US, and we can’t afford it any more.
One way to look at it is this way - we’re already paying the tax. Make it incredibly attractive to be a pharma developer in the US in order to create new clusters and expand the ones we already have.
Then you tell Europe and Canada they’ll be paying retail for drugs - one way or another. You slap a tariff on anything that uses US based IP so that the government pays per dose what the insurance companies and patients pay.
It’s that, or everybody sits down and figures out what is sane.
The FDA has so bollicksed up that process anyway. Most drugs, therapies, and devices are developed here, tested in small, lightly regulated backwaters, and then vetted to ensure that based on those shadow trials the med in question can withstand the FDA approval process, which cost MORE than $1B.
You fix drug approval, you can find probably 10’s, if not 100’s of billions in savings in the health care space.
They want to talk about anything but immigration. Carson jumped when he finally figured it out - no Sharia.
All he has to do is tie it back into immigration - Bush’s plan falls apart because it doesn’t factor in the cost of the rest of us paying for all our brown (and muslim) guests.
We don’t need a replacement plan.
We need it abolished - totally removed.
The only “replacement” I want to see for Obamacare is a smoking, glowing, crater.
Oh, I don’t either. The market works. But not when 90% of it is regulated, and one part isn’t. In other words, if you allow regulation in 90% of the world, but not here, it stands to reason we will be the ones paying the price. It’s not the drug companies’ fault. But I see no way in THAT situation to get the market “to work” here.
Some of these are good ideas. Don’t know about the development. One of the things we found is that, for example, MS drugs like Avonex have been on the market 20 years-—but are MORE expensive than ever! Traditionally, all products fall in price as the IP rights expire and generics appear-—but not in this case. It is a massive problem and has to be addressed. I don’t know what you do when 90% of the world has price caps and we don’t. I hate regulation and government interference, but unless there is a free market everywhere, there won’t be a free market here.
Everybody hammers Boeing on the 787 issues they had spinning that program up.
It exposed the fact that the world just isn’t up to the task of building a commercial heavy. Boeing gave away the plans and the tooling for most of the parts they’d need, even to biggies like Mitsubishi, and they managed to hose their end of it.
Tariffing isn’t something people like to talk about because nobody wants a ‘Trade War’. Fine, but we’re already in one. My FIL was on Avonex forever. One expensive drug, but it works like nothing else out there right now. He had to go off it, because he had a heart attack, and then a stroke while on the operating table dealing with the bypass.
If there is anything Obama is really guilty of its that he’s fine with forcing the US off the world stage and massively reducing our ability to protect our interests, but at the same time, he wants to keep paying for their pills. This is the guy whose name is on the legislation too. He’s a tyrant to his people, but a sycophant to the rest of the planet.
She is the second person we know who basically has gone completely off MS meds with zero progression in the disease.
But I don't know what people do who need that stuff. Biogen will give some people a kind of "support" that lowers the price to a manageable level, but even then it is high. No such thing as any new policy due to the "preexisting condition." Yet I fully understand how an insurance company can't be forced to carry that. I don't know the alternative.
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