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There is No Evidence of a Gay Gene, According to New Study
Young Conservatives ^ | October 17, 2015 | John S. Roberts

Posted on 10/17/2015 2:48:31 PM PDT by xzins

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To: RipSawyer

My grandfather was one of those guys, though bot the redwood type. He was about 5’9-10, ate like a horse and at 70 was still rock hard top to bottom. Most of his buds were around 6 foot. 6’3” being about the biggest. Not that thats small.

My grandmother had old newspaper pix of them loading pulp and log trucks by hand. Hardwood and soft. 4-5 cords a truck roughly in the old days. Several trucks a day. People should find an 8 foot maple log about a foot in diameter fresh cut sometime and see how many people it takes to lift it. They did that with a couple/three guys all day, 6 days a week.


141 posted on 10/17/2015 7:21:57 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Crucial; Arthur McGowan

Yes, I’m saying I don’t believe in SSA. I view it as doors that have already been opened to the detriment of the child. The result of years of counseling and seeing a lot of abuse, Stockholm type coercion, and brainwashing.


142 posted on 10/17/2015 7:22:11 PM PDT by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
"But in those cases, finding opposite-sex spouses and reproducing was the result of societal pressure to be normal. If we remove societal pressure from the discussion and look solely at the proposed evolutionary science of the mythical gay gene, it becomes clear that such a gene would not be propagated."

I don't think there is any "gay gene." But even if there were, your observation here seems both obvious and irrelevant. Obvious, because if you could hypothetically removed societal influence, people who weren't particularly attracted to procreative sex wouldn't do it, and they would die out in a generation.

But irrelevant, because there have never been human beings who lived in what is foolishly called a "state of nature", outside of a social context with all its cultural, economic, and psychological influences. Such influences have always operated to encourage man-woman bonding and family formation, because that is the foundation of human flourishing across the generations in every culture.

143 posted on 10/17/2015 7:26:36 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Still Catholic after all these years.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I know that you don’t believe there is a gay gene. I sure hope I didn’t imply otherwise. If so, please forgive that as poor communication on my part.

My point may be obvious but I don’t think it’s irrelevant. Those who push the mythical gay gene claim that homosexuality is genetic, is not a choice, and is not influenced by societal factors. Without societal influence, the mythical gay gene would cease to exist. They can’t logically claim that homosexuality is purely genetic because “pure genetics” wouldn’t allow it.


144 posted on 10/17/2015 7:46:47 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Homosexuality is actually a defect. It’s a congenital defect caused by conditions in the womb. There is such a thing as homosexuality in animals. But it has been eliminated in life stock because gay livestock is not cost effective. Theoretically, congenital homosexuality could be eliminated in one generation with a full spectrum of major and trace minerals, preferably chelated, consumed daily by expectant mothers. And as a side note other birth defects are eliminated in livestock and can be eliminated in humans by the same procedure.


145 posted on 10/17/2015 7:52:28 PM PDT by Crucial (At the heart all leftists is the fear that the truth is bigger than themselves.)
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To: moose07

It is the level of major and trace minerals in the womb that cause brain defects which in turn causes homosexuality. We’ve been able to eliminate 99% of “genetic” defects in livestock through their feed. We can do the same in people.


146 posted on 10/17/2015 8:22:54 PM PDT by Crucial (At the heart all leftists is the fear that the truth is bigger than themselves.)
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To: Crucial

Awesome, Thank you.


147 posted on 10/17/2015 8:34:53 PM PDT by moose07 (DMCS (Dit Me Cong San ) - Nah)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

OK, I get it. Thanks for the clarification.


148 posted on 10/17/2015 9:50:54 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Still Catholic after all these years.)
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To: Crucial

Interesting. Are you in the livestock business? What minerals do you use?


149 posted on 10/17/2015 9:53:48 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Still Catholic after all these years.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I learned it from Joel Wallach, a veterinarian who did comparative pathology in the 70’s and went on to become a naturopathic doctor. His work in the 70’s focused on finding animals that could be used to predict environmental changes. He noticed from the autopsies on animals and humans that they seemed to get many diseases due to mineral and other nutrient deficiencies. He became that type of doctor because his own research into the congenital causes of disease. He found out that cystic fibrosis could be caused in monkeys by withholding selenium in the monkey’s diet. In fact zinc deficiency can also cause cystic fibrosis. Because this claim, he was fired from the NIH. So, he decided he would sell mineral supplements and educate the public. His supplements are in the form of plant-derived colloids which are more than 90% absorbable. Of course, you can use chelated minerals from a variety of companies and still be way ahead of those that think they can get all their mineral nutrition from food.


150 posted on 10/18/2015 2:31:57 AM PDT by Crucial (At the heart all leftists is the fear that the truth is bigger than themselves.)
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To: Crucial

I wonder if autism also is affected by maternal nutrition?


151 posted on 10/18/2015 6:50:46 AM PDT by goodnesswins (hey..Wussie Americans....ISIS is coming. Are you ready?)
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To: Crucial

Thank you for this info. It is of great interest to me. Would you happen to know if Wallach has anything usable for conditions like kidney-stone formation, or inflammatory diseases like RA? (I have a lively personal interest in kidney stones and rheumatoid.)


152 posted on 10/18/2015 6:57:29 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Still Catholic after all these years.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

There’s a woman named Hulda Clark who has a method of flushing out kidney stones. You might want to take a few days off to implement and you’ll need a strong stomach. As far as the RA, I’m not sure but I would take my minerals and try a good cleanse of the liver and kidneys.


153 posted on 10/18/2015 7:54:25 AM PDT by Crucial (At the heart all leftists is the fear that the truth is bigger than themselves.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

There’s a woman named Hulda Clark who has a method of flushing out kidney stones. You might want to take a few days off to implement and you’ll need a strong stomach. As far as the RA, I’m not sure but I would take my minerals and try a good cleanse of the liver and kidneys.


154 posted on 10/18/2015 7:54:26 AM PDT by Crucial (At the heart all leftists is the fear that the truth is bigger than themselves.)
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To: xzins

I agree with you, xzins.


156 posted on 10/20/2015 12:25:38 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: arbitrary.squid
I’m not particularly religious, so...

No, really? I never would have guessed.

IATZ

157 posted on 10/21/2015 10:29:25 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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To: arbitrary.squid
I am not a religious man.

Whoops, there it is again. Well, thanks for pointing that out to yourself again. The rest of us already knew.

158 posted on 10/21/2015 10:35:01 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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To: arbitrary.squid
At best, heterosexuals are 90% of the population.

Not only are you not religious, you're no statistician, and can't be bothered to Google, either. Persistent exclusive homosexual/lesbian behavior in full adulthood? Around 2% of the population. Many who try it out in adolescence leave it alone after making the commonsense realization that death-defying thrill-seeking is not a really effective antidote to boredom, anger at parents, anxiety, depression or failing to feel cool enough.

159 posted on 10/21/2015 10:48:04 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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