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Essential Part of the Volkswagen Diesel Repair Is the Owner [Nobody will do the "fix"]
The New York Times ^ | October 18, 2015 | CHRISTOPHER JENSEN

Posted on 10/19/2015 3:37:56 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

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To: Timber Rattler

Easy. Sell it in Kansas.


21 posted on 10/19/2015 5:28:19 AM PDT by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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To: niteowl77
It does make for an interesting question... if the fix makes you gain ten percent in emissions but lose fifteen percent in fuel economy, you're actually emitting MORE pollutants per mile, and more pollutants over the life of the car.

Yes, the concentration of NOx in the exhaust is less... but you're making more exhaust.

22 posted on 10/19/2015 5:29:34 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: Timber Rattler

you are correct

lost in all the clap trap hoopla is the fact the design worked and worked well


23 posted on 10/19/2015 5:30:27 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump)
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To: Timber Rattler

Could states that require inspections for registration renewal force owners to take the software modifications?


24 posted on 10/19/2015 5:54:46 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag necessary?)
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To: DAC21

I was just assuming that here in MA it would be part of the car inspection process.

My assumption is that they would just give them one year from the announced “fix” and them you fail the inspection.

I wonder what kind of settlement the states will come to. Who wants to bet that the car owners get a free “fix” and no compensation for lost gas mileage.


25 posted on 10/19/2015 6:10:28 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Timber Rattler
The E.P.A. cannot force owners to repair their vehicles

The cars are not "broken". They just emit a wee bit more (in absolute terms!) NOx. Not good, but not a big deal either, other than pi$$ing off the EPA that has egg all over its face.

26 posted on 10/19/2015 6:36:23 AM PDT by Moltke
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To: DAC21

I think your right. In Texas you must pass a fairly stringent car inspection. If u don’t pass, you cannot register your vehicle which is certain to get you a ticket for “no inspection” and “no current registration” and you better have proof of insurance to show the cop too.

My son has a Passat diesel and we are currently wondering what to do.

So, it seems to me that to operate a legal car in Texas, as the law stands now, you will have to get it fixed.


27 posted on 10/19/2015 7:29:48 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: Cen-Tejas

Find some shop off the beaten path and take a chance that there is no check for the “fix” to the system that switches on the emissions controls when the car is checked?


28 posted on 10/19/2015 7:42:48 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Oberon

Burn more fuel make more CO2. Is that better than NOx? I don’t know and really don’t care for now.


29 posted on 10/19/2015 7:43:44 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: blackdog
I can assure everyone that Volkswagen is not the only auto maker engaged in such methods of achieving passing results

It is my understanding that it is common practice for the major auto manufacturers to buy each other's products to disassemble and completely reverse engineer. If so, I have a hard time believing that some other manufacturer (and probably all of them) didn't know of Volkswagen's little secret. Why not blow the whistle? No one wants to start that because each of them probably has their own little fudging method to meet standards which the others would disclose if that little pissing match started.

30 posted on 10/19/2015 8:31:17 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
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To: Sequoyah101
Burn more fuel make more CO2.

Plants love the stuff!

31 posted on 10/19/2015 9:09:26 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Sequoyah101

It used to be that the small counties (population) did not have the sophisticated and costly equipment to check tailpipe emissions. But, Travis County does. I have a new Toyota and it passed last time. Once before though, several years back, I flunked an inspection and was looking at $800.00 to fix it.

Fortunately then I lived in a small county so I just took the vehicle to them and since they had no equipment to check it, and as a small county were not legally obligated to, I was able to get my sticker.

These days too Texas has done away with “windshield” stickers. Now they give you a computer generated letter that you put in your glove compartment.


32 posted on 10/19/2015 2:34:37 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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