I respectfully disagree.
Posted on 10/21/2015 6:37:37 AM PDT by rellimpank
Don't believe for a second the rhetoric that pro-gun groups, like the rest of us, want to reduce the gun violence that is destroying cities.
Not when they are dead-set on sabotaging even a minor effort in Chicago to get guns off the street.
(Excerpt) Read more at chicago.suntimes.com ...
Thugs turn in your guns, not theirs.
Government cannot “buy back” that which they never gave, nor sold in the first place.
They did not ‘allow’ anyone to have a gun; if anything they impeded our God given, Constitution-affirmed rights, one of which is the ability to protect ourselves as individuals.
A government that wants its citizens to be unarmed is a government that wants to enslave them, eventually.
Whose guns are on the street, other than black gang bangers and Mexican gang bangers?
How about arresting the thug criminals? Oh wait...that would be waa-cist.
Just how many guns are turned in by government employees, particularly employees who are not policemen, armed services, FBI, or Marshal Service?
“sabotage”??
No, the bad guys lose easy access to useable weapons, the good guys get cheap weapons, and the gov’t pays for the garbage.
It’s not guns.
It’s Dorkbama’s sons.
Yet another — “the debate is over, give up your rights” argument from the Liberal press. They are much more overt about it anymore. Our grandkids aren’t going to be living in anything that looks like a democracy.
This was in the editorial..kinda shot down their own arguments..(shot down..just realized what I said..)
Voluntary gun buyback programs, such as Chicago’s, have been criticized as ineffective. The police tend to recover old, malfunctioning firearms or weapons from people who didn’t want them and were unlikely ever to use them. And the number of guns collected is just a drop in the bucket compared with the numbers of guns out there. A handful of studies have not found a direct correlation between gun buyback programs and reduced rates of gun crimes. There is, nonetheless, great value in such programs. They are part of a larger effort to reset society’s thinking about guns, to spread the message that we are awash in guns — so many of them illegal — and we must do more to combat gun violence. If buyback programs also directly reduce the number of gun crimes, so much the better.
Who is opposing the ‘buy back’ program?
As I understand it, the pro-gunners are going to participate to the fullest.
“Don’t believe for a second the rhetoric that pro-gun groups, like the rest of us, want to reduce the gun violence that is destroying cities.”
Excuse me, but context is important, and so is cause and effect and the issue of which is the dependent variable and which is the independent variable in a social dynamic.
People who are “pro-gun” are typically socially conservative. They did not become conservative because they liked firearms, they understand the value of firearms and other means of defense because their values and worldview informs them of the citizenship obligations to defend themselves, their families and their fellow citizens.
The violence and deaths in Chicago do not take place in a vacuum. They are the result of a long chain of social issues, beginning with how a society conveys morality and character to each new generation and how society deals with people who are a danger to others. The rate of violence in Chicago is a direct result of how individuals and the people they associate with behave and interact with each other and with those outside of their group.
Liberals cannot accept personal responsibility. They find it too easy to deflect blame for their own failures and rejection of morality. They cannot accept this very criticism because to do so would imply that morals are an essential part of being a whole and peaceful human being and citizen.
So, the blame for violence must be anything other than character and morals. It cannot be in the realm of the spiritual, and therefore must be in the realm of the physical. We cannot blame anyone nor any socialist public institution like the welfare state for the high rates of violence. We must blame guns, or blame the lack of “funding” for “benefits” and social programs.
So, in the end, any person who points this out, and who rejects the solutions that liberals demand, are people who must not be considered rational, credible or who must be allowed to influence the inexorable decay of liberal solutions.
The weekly carnage in Chicago hardly makes the national news. But should a single person commit such a crime in a single incident in a college and murder FEWER people, it noteworthy because it is MORE USEFUL as a TOOL to ADVANCE and agenda than it is anything else.
The leftists haven’t figured out that we don’t listen to their broad sweeping statements because we know they are lies. Every time. They have really stepped it up lately. I suspect they know they’ve been made and are hoping some people will buy their lies so they’re slinging as many of them out there as possible right now. Damn liars.
There is a common factor in the “gun violence” that is destroying cities, and it’s not the gun.
If so, guns in the hands of suburbanites would result in approximately proportionate amounts of “gun violence”.
No, the common factor is a degenerate culture fostered and promoted by liberal ideology.
Yeah, ok, I don’t believe them, it is more believable that they want gun violence to sky rocket in cities....loony, that makes a lot of sense!
People with functioning firearms who want to use them don't give them to the police. Duh.
1. Hope is not a strategy. The authors really need to get a grip on reality.
2. Perhaps we can get editorial writers off the street that otherwise might be used in a "future" crime. The editorial writers need to know that Minority Report is just a movie.
If my tax money has to be involved in firearms purchases, I’d far far prefer the govt give firearms away free like it does everything else anyway. A free firearm would be a heck of a lot more useful in defending against crime than a free Obamaphone or a free transit pass Give away guns, don’t try to take them away.
Sure just the name makes if a lie, Chicago never owned those guns so they can not buy them BACK.
But the Left of course believes that words mean what they want them to mean for the nano second they are said and can mean the opposite the next nano second !
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