But it wont work out that way. People, middle class, will die as a result.
Yep... that's exactly right. End food stamps, food cards, welfare, after school basketball, government subsidies, school lunch programs, subsidized obammy care, and on and on.... the list is miles long. Many of us have subsidized this stuff all of our lives and never gotten a single penny FROM the government. My wife is three years away from Medicare, and just started social security this month. I don't have a problem taking either of those after 50 years of supporting everything else in the welfare state. And yeah, I could probably be means tested out of Social Security, but they better not try.
This nation is doomed. It will suffer economic and political collapse and dissolve into violence, rioting, internecine warfare to make the collapse of Yugoslavia look peaceful. It will do so within my lifetime.
And there’s not a damned thing I can do to prevent it.
You have just convinced me of that.
“means tested out of Social Security” is simply ANOTHER socialist redistribution euphemism. You know, sorry, we robbed your paycheck your whole life and promised you it was for a good cause, namely, we were just saving it for you in your SS “account”, but now we’ve changed our minds and we’re gonna rob you again, but this time you get NOTHING back, NOTHING YOU HEAR!
I paid the maximum of one side of FICA for close to 40 years. Then, I took early retirement and paid both sides for years as an independent consultant. Somewhere, along the line I started the Medicare tax. I pay a monthly Medicare insurance premium with my company each month and a monthly Medicare payment deduction from my SS check. We have paid in more than we have cost Medicare since we went on it.
My wife started paying SS, when she was 14 and worked until she was 73, paying SS taxes and the monthly Medicare tax.
We have paid for decades and still pay unlike some third world pos, coming in this country illegally and drawing all types of benefits from our tax $'s without paying into the system. Versus someone with self inflicted problems like being a druggie/alcohic on Medical or Medicaid and never paying into the program.
I agree with everything you stated.
obamacare didn’t kill me. Well, i dont know low, have to get new plan that covers endoscopy in new year.
every two years should be ok with what i have but he wanted to do every year.
i was disabled several years back, on SSDI but off it now and working again. Can’t lie, i took the 7 years of medicare they give you after you return to work. it’s moochy but my job’s plan is too much.
i add another 100 or 200 and get good insurance. but just note the endoscopy. and hospital stays are a fortune first five days!!
everyone TAKES in this country.
I have a feeling the people on this board are in general a little older than my 47 years.
STAY HEALTHY.
it is a different century where 80 is nothing.
WE NEED you guys more than ever.
NO RETIREMENT FOR YOU!! AT LEAST FROM POLITICS.