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What Seventh-day Adventists like Ben Carson believe
CNN ^ | 10/27/2015 Updated 8:29 PM ET | Daniel Burke

Posted on 10/27/2015 5:51:05 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Donald Trump made headlines this weekend by questioning fellow GOP candidate Ben Carson's Seventh-day Adventist faith -- literally.

"I'm Presbyterian," Trump said at a rally in Florida on Saturday. "Boy, that's down the middle of the road folks, in all fairness. I mean, Seventh-day Adventist, I don't know about. I just don't know about."

Carson, who was baptized into the Seventh-day Adventist Church in Detroit when he was 8 and earnestly committed himself to the church when he was 14, is perhaps the faith's most famous member. Trump later said that he wasn't trying to "send a dog whistle" to religious conservatives who might look askance at Adventist doctrine. "All I said was that I don't know about it," he told ABC.

Fair enough. A lot of Americans don't know much about the Seventh-day Adventist Church. The Protestant Christian denomination turned 150 years old in 2013, which makes it a relative newcomer on the religious scene. (This is year 5776 in Judaism, by contrast.) Many Adventists embrace their outsider status, calling themselves "God's peculiar people." But Carson, while acknowledging that people tend to ascribe "any weird thing" to Adventists, has played down the differences, saying dogmas and rituals are not his cup of nonalcoholic beverage. (Adventists don't drink or smoke.)

In any case, if you're like Trump and need a quick course on Adventism 101, here are three beliefs they share with mainstream Christians, followed by several unique to Seventh-day Adventists. One quick caveat: Not all of the 1 million Adventists in the United States (including Carson) and estimated 18 million worldwide ascribe to all of the church's beliefs in exactly the same way. Like all faiths, Adventists display a range of intellectual diversity.

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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

As usual, got nuthin’, GPH. Get a clue.


61 posted on 10/27/2015 6:51:20 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: conservativejoy; sparklite2

Technically, Scientology claims to be “compatible” with Christianity and all other religions, though even the cross symbol on their church sets up a new idol: the self, which is what it is meant to signify.


62 posted on 10/27/2015 6:53:15 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

I was told this by a good friend who is SDA. I am not, by the way, and we have had some good discussions.


63 posted on 10/27/2015 6:53:26 PM PDT by buckeye49 (HOPE IS NOT A STRATEGY-TED CRUZ FOR PRESIDENT!!)
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To: RginTN

Trump did NOT make an issue of SDA - he merely said he didn’t know about them. And, many, many people don’t. I’ll leave the judging up to the Lord - however, I can disagree with many different sects on what they believe. If it isn’t Biblical, then I reject it. Not the people, but their teachings. The SDA people I know are good people, kind of strange acting though, but nice.


64 posted on 10/27/2015 6:54:42 PM PDT by Catsrus ( I callz 'em as I seez 'em.)
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To: SeekAndFind

He said middle of the road, so I imagine PCUSA.


65 posted on 10/27/2015 6:55:02 PM PDT by kalee
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To: eastsider
As usual, got nuthin’,

What is it with people pronouncing things like "as usual" when they've clearly not refuted me nor done anything to refute me? I suspect the "as usual" thing is used by a handful of clueless people who are just really lazy.

66 posted on 10/27/2015 6:55:08 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Catholicism is hardly credible in determining who is and isn't the people of God.

Catholicism is the ONLY authority on what the Christian religion is and isn't......the others, all of them, are figments of some man's imagination.

67 posted on 10/27/2015 6:56:38 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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To: DoughtyOne

According to what you wrote, then these beliefs line up with mainstream Christianity.


68 posted on 10/27/2015 6:57:51 PM PDT by Catsrus ( I callz 'em as I seez 'em.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Isn’t that ridiculous? Of course, no one who practices Scientology knows much about Christianity to begin with.


69 posted on 10/27/2015 6:59:20 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

So what’s the criterion for determining who is and who isn’t a Christian? Tell us, Teacher.


70 posted on 10/27/2015 6:59:32 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: Nifster
What is ‘wrong’ in my post?

Everything. SDAs believe in the Triune God, so you are dead wrong. Their only true departure from mainstream Protestants is their belief in annihilation, not everlasting torment. They have some pre-KJV scriptural support for this. I am Lutheran, BTW.

71 posted on 10/27/2015 7:00:14 PM PDT by Right Brother
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

This would conflict with Malachi’s statement that the unsaved, humans anyway, will burn like chaff. Chaff is the leftover stuff from threshing grain that Israelites could not use. They burned it and it would instantly burn, literally instantly.

Abraham’s bosom is a parable. Christ wasn’t teaching really anything about hell here. Do you really think we will get to watching the suffering of the wicked and unsaved anytime we want and talk to them at will? One of Christ’s central teaching has been to not keep the financial blessings to yourself. If you do, you could lose your salvation.


72 posted on 10/27/2015 7:01:22 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
Adventists don’t believe in the Infallible Word of God because Jesus spoke often about Hell.

Protestants don't believe in the infallible word of God because Jesus SAID, personally..."TAKE AND EAT OF THIS....THIS IS MY BODY"....and protestants say.....no it isn't.

73 posted on 10/27/2015 7:02:22 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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To: terycarl

Adventists don’t believe in the Infallible Word of God because Jesus spoke often about Hell.


74 posted on 10/27/2015 7:04:04 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
I don't see any Adventist believing in same sex marriage, but I do see Presbyterian (in which Trump is a member) churches that do.

https://www.pcusa.org/news/2015/3/20/what-same-sex-marriage-means-presbyterians/

75 posted on 10/27/2015 7:05:06 PM PDT by celmak (GO TED CRUZ !!!)
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To: vette6387

Loma Linda?


76 posted on 10/27/2015 7:05:11 PM PDT by Freestate316 (Know what you believe and why you believe it.)
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To: Catsrus

When I wrote the first of these two posts to try and let folks know what Seventh-Day Adventist core beliefs were, I inadvertently left out Baptism by immersion.

They believe this signifies dying to sin, and being reborn into perfection, of course symbolically. It’s like a bowler drawing a line, starting again from there. This time trying not to live a life of sin, knowing that will not be totally successful.

This is a set of beliefs

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3351949/posts?page=196#196

This is some activity that they don’t not participate in, that would generally be thought of as cult-like.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3352853/posts?page=61#61


77 posted on 10/27/2015 7:06:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: celmak

And I would gesture to say that many in the mainstream denominations which believe in same-sex marriage do not.


78 posted on 10/27/2015 7:09:06 PM PDT by Catsrus ( I callz 'em as I seez 'em.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
Presbyterians also allow for abortions.

http://www.pcusa.org/site_media/media/uploads/oga/pdf/problem-pregnancies.pdf

79 posted on 10/27/2015 7:11:43 PM PDT by celmak (GO TED CRUZ !!!)
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To: Jonty30

The parable which you refer to doesn’t say that the rich man was able to talk to Lazarus, who was in Abraham’s bosom. That was the place where the righteous went before Jesus’s death, burial and resurrection. The rich man wanted Lazarus to give him a drop of water on his tongue, and also to go and tell his 5 brothers not to come to that place of torment. If you read it - you will also read Jesus’s answer. It doesn’t say one word that Lazarus was able to watch the rich man in torment. Possibly, he could, but that isn’t clarified. Also, when one goes to heaven, one will not be aware of what is happening on earth.


80 posted on 10/27/2015 7:12:24 PM PDT by Catsrus ( I callz 'em as I seez 'em.)
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