Posted on 11/13/2015 9:55:43 AM PST by SeekAndFind
A rather astonishing video has surfaced courtesy of the Rick Santorum campaign showing Ted Cruz, apparently during a debate over Marco Rubio's Gang of 8 "Amnesty Bill," calling for a provision that would legalize all 11-plus million illegal aliens. He even used the liberal code phrase "out of the shadows." I encourage you to watch the video and see for yourself.
Ted Cruz has stood for securing the border along with Donald Trump and Ben Carson, but he has been conspicuously silent on the issue of deporting illegals. I think the reason why is now clear. He doesn't want to deport them; he wants to legalize them. Now, Ted Cruz would be the first to say he doesn't want to give them a path to citizenship, but, realistically, once they are legalized, the left won't long tolerate a class of people here who don't have citizenship, and the left will act, through the judiciary or the executive, to legalize them. So Ted Cruz saying he opposes a path to citizenship but supports legalizing is not a tremendous difference.
Ted Cruz speaks frequently about the rule of law and constitutionalism; how can he say he supports the rule of law when he supports rewarding millions of lawbreakers with legalization? It's worth noting that Cruz has also called for expanding H1-B visas, but in that process we can at least screen for people who are educated and have marketable skills. It's not just a random set of people who decide they want to come to America. But that unvetted group, too, is what Cruz wants to legalize.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Cruz's amendment would deny citizenship to the Gang of Eight's Amnesty bill.
The links you provided just shows me that Cruz’s policy on illegal immigration is not set in stone.
RE: Cruz’s amendment would deny citizenship to the Gang of Eight’s Amnesty bill.
That’s OK by me, but here’s the next question — If they have children born here ( which current US law considers citizens ), should we allow them to stay legally?
The way the law is currently interpreted, those are the ‘anchor babies’ who are citizens at birth.
I’m sure if you deport the parents, that they’ll take the child.
However, since the child is a US citizen, I’m sure the courts will block that deportation.
What that means is that the courts will force us to accept that some illegals will be permitted to stay. Smart illegals will immediately get someone pregnant on arrival or bring a pregnant spouse with them.
It is not up to the US government to decide what parents in the US illegally do with their US born children. Most responsible parents would take their children with them if they are deported back to the nation of their lawful citizenship.
The illegal parents created this situation, not the USA.
Note that was legal and controlled immigration.. hmm seems to invalidate the op.
RE: However, since the child is a US citizen, Iâm sure the courts will block that deportation.
What that means is that the courts will force us to accept that some illegals will be permitted to stay. Smart illegals will immediately get someone pregnant on arrival or bring a pregnant spouse with them.
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That’s what I was driving at. Some things are MORE COMPLEX than those debaters would like us to believe.
Not even Trump as President has the power to control what the courts decide.
Cruz put a poison pill into a bill.
Why are you sure? Remember the well publicized case of the illegal woman who was harbored in a Chicago church with her US born son? She was finally deported and the US born son went with her.
Can't immediately recall their names, but it was only two or three years ago and there would be huge numbers of links.
Yes, any candidate in favor of “the wall” or “the fence” should emphasize 2 things:
1. That ‘the wall’ is a metaphor for a physical high tech wall, but it includes complete control of ports, coasts, airports, visas, and foreign delegations.
2. That the candidate will propose legislation or amendment that will rid us of the anchor baby interpretation.
Legalization will still cost us $6.3 trillion if there are only 12 million.
Cruz offered an amendment that was not included in the bill. The Gang of 8 bill passed the Senate 68 to 32, picking up all Democrats and 14 Republicans. There was no poison pill.
I’m sure because Obama has been appointing judges for 7 years now. Someone someplace will shop for the right judge who will make a national ruling.
Yes it was. It forever barred illegals from seeking US citizenship.
Activist Deportee Elvira Arellano Released In San Diego
They can be deported with a president who enforces the law, even when they have US born children.
Former Cruz-staffer Amanda Carpenter explains, Ted didnât actually support amnesty. He only put this amendment forward in order to show to voters that the Gang of 8 wasnât telling the truth about whether or not their amnesty plans would eventually result in a path to citizenship for illegal aliens.
It is amnesty whether there is a path to citizenship or not. Cruz supports legalization of the lawbreakers. He said so.
You've certainly thrown in the towel. A new president can change Obama's no deportation policies and immigration law judges have to follow the laws as passed by Congress and signed by the president once the asinine, sweeping "prosecutorial discretion" scam is ended.
“Context folks, context.
I remember the point Cruz was trying to make here and itâs dishonest, to say the least, to try to spin this as support for Rubio’s bill.”
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skeeter, context escapes some FReepers and MANY of the low-information voters extant in this country. The GOPe and other anti-Cruz forces in this primary campaign can be expected to engage in a FUD (i.e., sow fear, uncertainty and doubt) campaign against Cruz and hope enough folks are confused by it. IMHO the FUD won’t work long term.
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