[Nervous Tick]

>> I’ve talked to farmers with multi-thousands acres farms and they say their business would collapse

Tough cookies. Those farmers are criminals just like the wetbacks they hire.

>> I’ve talked to hotel owners and they say that they would have a very difficult time without them.

Too bad, so sad.

>> That’s why I say workers willing to work in industries where we need them

THEY ARE CRIMINALS! Remove them and let the chips fall as they may.

Otherwise, their “legal” stay of “six months” PLUS THE INEVITABLE EXTENSIONS will equal FOREVER.

[Gen.Blather]

Americans won’t fill those jobs because they make more on welfare than working. It’s simple, end welfare.

[erkelly]

In the 60s, we had what was termed the Bracero program. Workers came up from Mexico on short term visas to help farmers harvest the crops, etc., and when they were done they went home. They were legal, they did do work that Americans did not want to do (except for some college kids looking for summer jobs.) The braceros had some basic protections under the law, including the fact that farmers were required to pay into social security for them. They were able to draw their legal social security in Mexico when they reached retirement age. We need a return to the bracero program for farm workers, and perhaps something like it (short term) for domestic labor as well that is designed in such a way that American workers have first short that those jobs.