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To: Political Junkie Too
Your attempt to sow doubt as to what I can clearly read is futile.

I know I'm not going to sow any doubt in you. My point is that I can also read Thomas Paine and I can come to my own conclusions on what he meant. And that I'm not prepared to accept your interpretation just because you say so.

And I'm still waiting for someone to point to where the "laws of nature and of nature's God" are listed so I can read the definition it gives for natural-born citizen. I guess I'll be waiting in vain.

318 posted on 11/17/2015 5:17:22 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
How disingenuous can you be?

The sun warms our planet and we can witness that when our portion of the planet faces the sun. "Does the sun come up everyday?"Naturally!-DoodleDawg-Where is that written?

"Does a bear shit in the woods.?"Naturally!-DoodleDawg-Where is that written?

"Does Monday follow Sunday?"Naturally!-DoodleDawg-Where is that written?

"Is a child born in the US to parents who are US citizens become a US citizen?"Naturally!-DoodleDawg-Where is that written?

320 posted on 11/17/2015 7:48:31 AM PST by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: DoodleDawg
And I'm still waiting for someone to point to where the "laws of nature and of nature's God" are listed so I can read the definition it gives for natural-born citizen. I guess I'll be waiting in vain.

I am reminded of the immortal words of Lex Luthor (Played by Gene Hackman) in the original Superman movie.

Some people can read War and Peace and come away thinking it's a simple adventure story. Others can read the ingredients on a chewing gum wrapper and unlock the secrets of the universe.

You seem to be in over your head. This topic seems too complex for you to discuss. You appear to be the sort that can be led to water, but you can't be made to drink it.

If you can't grasp the complexity of the writing, perhaps a picture will help?


321 posted on 11/17/2015 8:05:23 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DoodleDawg
And I'm still waiting for someone to point to where the "laws of nature and of nature's God" are listed...

I posted Thomas Jefferson's words where he laid it out: that all men are created equal; that we have the inherent right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that we have the right to form civil structures from the consent of the governed; and to throw off these structures if they become obstacles to the preceding.

But you obviously rejected it.

Be ar in mind that Jefferson wrote this 11 years before the Constitution was drafted. Any relevance to natural born citizenry comes from the right of the people to form their own governments, extended to mean the People are free to decide for themselves whom they want as fellow citizens; and to throw off their government if they no longer consent to its behavior.

Given that some argue that NBC is settled, others argue that the meaning is still in flux, and still others argue that the Supreme Court should unequivocally settle this one and for all, consent of the governed has not been established.

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322 posted on 11/17/2015 10:37:11 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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