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Massacre in Paris
Townhall.com ^ | November 17, 2015 | Cal Thomas

Posted on 11/17/2015 5:49:54 AM PST by Kaslin

Just hours before the terrorist attacks in Paris last week, for which ISIS has claimed responsibility, "Good Morning America" broadcast an interview with President Obama. In it, the president told host George Stephanopoulos, "I don't think they're gaining strength. What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq, and in Syria they'll come in, they'll leave, but you don't see this systemic march by ISIL across the terrain."

Maybe, but they've gained ground in Europe and most likely in America. Incredibly, the president wants 10,000 Syrian "refugees" to be admitted to the U.S. on top of the 1,854 who are already here.

The president has referred to ISIS (or ISIL, as he prefers) as the "jv," or junior varsity. It appears now that they've made it to the "varsity" level.

Where to turn for leadership to fight and defeat this clear and present danger to civilized society? Certainly not to President Obama, who has been in denial his entire presidency about the global threat we're facing. The president has consistently refused to use words like "Islamic terrorism" or "Islamism" to describe the belief system motivating these killers. It is difficult to fight, much less prevail, over an enemy one refuses even to name.

ISIS will not be defeated with guns and bombs alone, or even mainly. Their soldiers have a religious purpose. Their diagnosis of the West's decadence is correct. Their solution -- Sharia law -- is not. During Saturday's Democratic presidential debate, Hillary Clinton said non-Islamist Muslims must take the lead in fighting and defeating this scourge. The question is, will they? We have seen our failure in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria to train sufficient numbers of Muslim soldiers to fight the Taliban and ISIS. In too many cases they have turned on their trainers, defected to the other side or cut and run when faced with the more highly motivated and combat experienced enemy.

At a minimum, we need to track down and deport those from the Middle East who are in the U.S. on expired visas. Then we have to bar any more from coming in, as the Republican governors of Michigan and Alabama have vowed to do. Other governors should do likewise if the president won't act. Additionally, to the extent that it is possible, anyone who leaves the U.S. for a country where there are terrorist training camps must not be allowed to return, even if they have a U.S. passport. This will be difficult as some travel to supposedly friendly countries like Turkey and then slip across the border into Syria without a passport stamp.

Hillary Clinton was asked during the latest debate how she would screen Syrian refugees coming to the United States. She replied that while the Obama administration wants to take 10,000 refugees from Syria, "I said we should go to 65 (thousand), but only if we have as careful a screening and vetting process as we can imagine, whatever resources it takes. I do not want us to in any way inadvertently allow people who wish us harm to come into our country."

That is wishful thinking. There is no way to be certain that any or all of them are not jihadists. ISIS has openly bragged about including jihadists among those who have fled to Europe and only a fool would believe that same strategy is not being applied to America.

This is important and it ought to transcend partisanship. ISIS and other terrorists don't discriminate between political parties, or religions. They also kill Muslims who don't agree with them.

This is a generational war and it won't be won with platitudes about how ISIS doesn't represent true Islam. That's an argument for theologians and academics. The reality is that those who are engaged in mass murder believe it does and the consequence of refusing to take them seriously is more killing.

Islamists have a purpose. We seem to have lost ours.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: isil; isis; parisattack; refugeecrisis; terrorism

1 posted on 11/17/2015 5:49:54 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Obaemae Hussein is one of them.


2 posted on 11/17/2015 5:54:14 AM PST by exnavy (good gun control: two hands, one shot, one kill.)
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To: Kaslin

Why has no one in the media asked Barry why the afghans have asked the Russians for assistance against ISIS? Seems they are now even challenging the Taliban... Some scorpion fight that is


3 posted on 11/17/2015 5:54:33 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Kaslin

Good thing we didn’t try and “contain” Japan and Germany.

I saw the theory put forth yesterday that he is a traitor working through the MB with ISIS.

I dont want to believe it.

But what does the evidence point to? they could have been taken out on long caravan ride to Iraq long ago.

What strategy is containment with the strongest air force in the world?

Merkel has completely and utterly lost her mind as she is doubling down. Unless she was indoctrinated as a youth in East Germany.

These are treacherous times indeed.

Now I have to count on Russia and France? incredible.

And someone please send Saudi Arabia straight back to hell please. They arm jihadis to the teeth and NEVER pay.

They were in bed so much with the Bushes i’m surprised they’re not pregnant.


4 posted on 11/17/2015 5:56:24 AM PST by dp0622 (..)
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To: Kaslin
the president told host George Stephanopoulos, "I don't think they're gaining strength.
What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain and we have contained them."

Obama wants to "contain" the muslim savages.
That's like planning to contain plutonium in a Tupperware container.


5 posted on 11/17/2015 5:58:44 AM PST by Iron Munro (<p> The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: Kaslin
Now, now. The truth is whatever Obama and his lapdog Pravda Media says it is. Pay no attention to the carnage in Paris! /s Our country is in deep trouble due to those who believe my first two sentences. I don't know what it will take to awaken the sheeple, but I am convinced it will happen before our next election. That is unless Obama has made a deal with the terrorists to wait to strike us until he is out of office so the next President will be blamed.
6 posted on 11/17/2015 6:02:52 AM PST by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Kaslin
> "Where to turn for leadership to fight and defeat this clear and present danger to civilized society? Certainly not to President Obama, who has been in denial his entire presidency about the global threat we're facing. The president has consistently refused to use words like "Islamic terrorism" or "Islamism" to describe the belief system motivating these killers. It is difficult to fight, much less prevail, over an enemy one refuses even to name."

"Denial"? Hell he's part of the damn plan! Its going exactly as planned. Of course he won't call his own people terrorists. To him they're on a religious mission. But Christians are the evil ones and should be persecuted, right, 0?

7 posted on 11/17/2015 6:06:59 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Kaslin

www.house.gov

www.senate.gov

DC offices are open until 6 pm EST.

Call your reps and tell them not one Syrian refugee is to be admitted to the USA.

You do not want another 9/11.

You do not want another Paris ...this time on our soil.

For the morons in DC who say we need to take our fair share of refugees, our fair share was 7,000 dead men and women killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, and 50,000 wounded warriors.

That was our fair share.

The Arabs with all their oil money can take care of their brothers.

Not our problem.

Make the call. It is time the jerks in DC are reminded who the bosses of this country really are.


8 posted on 11/17/2015 6:09:11 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: exit82

The terrorists have already threatened that Washington, DC is next.


9 posted on 11/17/2015 6:11:31 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

You’re right—and still the SOBs dither.


10 posted on 11/17/2015 6:12:58 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Kaslin

Geller: The West Has Lost the Will to Live

http://pamelageller.com/2015/11/pamela-geller-breitbart-news-the-west-has-lost-the-will-to-live.html/

“The West is hanging on by a thread and doesn’t even know it. We are living off the fumes of the accomplishments of our forefathers and those who fought and died in the cause of freedom and individual rights. But the thread is wearing thin. Time is just about running out.”

“After the murderous jihad attacks in Paris comes the predictable Western response: not resolute self-defense, but weepy candlelight vigils, protestations of unity, and hashtags. After the jihad attacks in Garland, Texas, Chattanooga, the University of California Merced, and scores of arrests of American Muslims working for ISIS (the FBI has 900 ISIS-related investigations currently ongoing), our top priority should be to crush the enemy.”

“Instead, we get pathos and pitiful memes. NBC reported: “Paris residents were using the hashtag #PorteOuverte — French for ‘open door’—on Twitter to offer safe haven to strangers stranded after a string of deadly attacks Friday night.” Everyone is congratulating himself over this hashtag. “Twitter users in other countries,” NBC added, “also began using the hashtag to share their delight that social media was being used for a good cause”—colossal stupidity.”

- See more at: http://pamelageller.com/2015/11/pamela-geller-breitbart-news-the-west-has-lost-the-will-to-live.html/#sthash.DDIDppn0.dpuf


11 posted on 11/17/2015 6:31:08 AM PST by Iron Munro (<p> The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: Kaslin
The terrorists have already threatened that Washington, DC is next.


12 posted on 11/17/2015 6:34:47 AM PST by Iron Munro (<p> The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: Iron Munro
That's like planning to contain plutonium in a Tupperware container.

Bad analogy, plutonium is an alpha emitter and a Tupperware container would stop alpha particles quite nicely. As a matter of fact you could wrap plutonium in newspaper and a single sheet of paper would do an effective job of shielding the stuff.

Your skin will also stop alpha particles, if however, you were machining a 'pit' for a nuclear bomb and inhaled a bit of plutonium dust you would soon die of cancer as a source of alpha particles is now inside you and destroying tissue.

Regards,
GtG

13 posted on 11/17/2015 6:38:46 AM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, but it's OK. They all know me here.)
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To: Kaslin
but you don't see this systemic march by ISIL across the terrain

Uh, yes we do. They hide among the so-called refugees and they are marching all across Europe.

14 posted on 11/17/2015 6:57:26 AM PST by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: Kaslin
Massacre in Paris: about 130 so far.


Massacre in America on the same day: about 3,300

15 posted on 11/17/2015 10:04:59 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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