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Donald Trump on closing mosques: "We're gonna have no choice"
Business Insider ^ | 11/18/2015 | Colin Campbell

Posted on 11/18/2015 8:43:51 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Once again, Trump is saying what others are too afraid to say. This is called fearless leadership, something this country hasn’t seen in a very long time.


21 posted on 11/18/2015 9:00:33 AM PST by mad puppy (E PLURIBUS UNUM)
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To: basil

Or free assembly?


22 posted on 11/18/2015 9:00:36 AM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: basil
Don’t we have something called freedom of religion in this country?

Not if your religion is an unconstitutional form of government opposed to obeying your host country's laws.


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23 posted on 11/18/2015 9:00:44 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: SeekAndFind

Close all the mosques and fill them with grain! - Gentle Ben.


24 posted on 11/18/2015 9:02:44 AM PST by Beagle8U (jeb! continues to not only step in it, but lie down and roll in it! - freedumb2003)
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To: basil

>So you are saying all Muslims are Jihadist?

Nope. But enough of them are to warrant close scrutiny. islam is a death cult.


25 posted on 11/18/2015 9:04:32 AM PST by soycd
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To: Beagle8U

They are closing them all over Europe and even talk of taking away citizenship


26 posted on 11/18/2015 9:04:36 AM PST by scooby321
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To: basil; soycd
So you are saying all Muslims are Jihadist?

What is a fool-proof test to tell the difference.

27 posted on 11/18/2015 9:06:51 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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So you are saying all Muslims are Jihadist?

No, but you need to wake up about the people you are defending.

Why Muslims Are Violent
www.offgridblogger.wordpress.com ^ | November 18, 2015 | Off Grid Blogger
Posted on 11/18/2015, 8:50:28 AM by grumpa

Islam is the most violent religion in the world. Indeed, Islam has been spread by violence since its inception. What explains this?

This is pretty straight forward folks. There are peaceful Muslims, but there is no such thing as peaceful Islam. Violence is not an aberration in Islam, it is DOCTRINE. Dozens of passages in the Quran exhort Muslims to hate or kill or terrorize infidels (non-Muslims) wherever they find them. For examples, see Suras 2:190-193, 2:216, 2:244, 3:56, 3:142, 3:151, 4:24 (rape of captive women); 4:56, 4:74 (beheading), 4:76, 4:84, 4:89, 4:91, 4:95, 4:104, 5:51 (take no Jews or Christians as friends); 5:32-38, 7:96-99, 8:12-15 (beheading), 8:39, 8:57-60, 8:65-67, 9:5, 9:14, 9:20-30, 9:38-41, 9:73, 9:88, 9:111, 9:123, 17:16, 18:65-81, 21:44, 22:18-22, 25:52, 33:60-62, 47:3-4 (beheading), 47:35, 48:16-17, 48:29, 61:4, and 66:8-12. These are the passages that jihadists quote in defense of their horrible atrocities. Unlike the Old Testament, violence in the Quran is mostly open-ended, that is, not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding events.

While there are passages that Muslims point to that might suggest peaceful solutions (Suras 2:190, 2:256, 5:8, 5:28, 5:32, 8:61, 29:46, 41:34, 109:6), these are overwhelmed by the violent ones. Indeed, the peaceful passages were abrogated (Sura 2:106), i.e. superseded, by the violent commands because the violent ones were written later, after Muhammad moved to Medina (from Mecca). Anyone who wants to commit acts of violence has perfect justification for doing so from the Quran. There is nothing in the Quran comparable to the teachings of Jesus to TURN THE OTHER CHEEK and to LOVE EVEN YOUR ENEMIES.

Take the time to look these passages up for yourself. Below is a site that has three translations of the Quran side-by-side. (Note: English translators of the Quran sometimes try to soften the true Arabic meaning of some of these passages. For example, to “fight” really means to kill in Arabic.)

http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran

Here is a short video on the Quran and its violent message:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXBgqa-xQwY

In addition to the Quran are the hadiths. These are collections of sayings and actions of Muhammad. Indeed, Muhammad was one of the most violent men in history, setting the example for all Muslims to follow. See this link:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm

Muslims have been spreading their religion by violence since the inception of the religion, not only because of the commands in the Quran, but also because of the example of Muhammad. Here is a list of modern terror attacks by Muslims:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3361991/posts


28 posted on 11/18/2015 9:07:35 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump/Palin 2016. Cruz Attorney General 2017. Bolton SoS 2017. Watch liberal & GOPe heads implode!)
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To: Beagle8U

Close them all and turn them into Bar-B-Que joints.


29 posted on 11/18/2015 9:08:01 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: scooby321

Good! Its about time they sent Ahab back to his litter-box.


30 posted on 11/18/2015 9:08:04 AM PST by Beagle8U (jeb! continues to not only step in it, but lie down and roll in it! - freedumb2003)
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That works too.


31 posted on 11/18/2015 9:09:50 AM PST by Beagle8U (jeb! continues to not only step in it, but lie down and roll in it! - freedumb2003)
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To: All

I have trust issues with Trump, but he says all the right things.

Watching...


32 posted on 11/18/2015 9:11:05 AM PST by TheTimeOfMan (Cruz / West 2016)
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To: SeekAndFind
The only good Mosque is a ................

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33 posted on 11/18/2015 9:11:08 AM PST by Karl Spooner
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If they stopped fighting, there’d be no fight.
If we stopped fighting, there’d be no us.

(A paraphrased quote about Israel and the palestinians but it applies here too).


34 posted on 11/18/2015 9:12:05 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (Trump/Cruz 2016)
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To: basil

No, just like all Germans during WWII weren’t Nazis. However they suffered the consequences of being Germans in a Nazis Germany. Muslims, just like those Germans who did virtually nothing to counter the direction their ‘religion’ was/is going, become IRRELEVANT to the conversation and hence suffer the consequences.


35 posted on 11/18/2015 9:13:16 AM PST by yadent
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To: SeekAndFind

Mosques are enemy concentrations where they can easily be spied upon.

Closing the mosques hugely complicates intel collection.

Much better to simply begin deportation, immediately disallow any more Muslim immigration and discontinue birth bitizenship for muslims.

Make sure signage and company mastheads indicate Muslim ownership.

The USA needs to radically upgrade spying on MUSLIMS and make the USA into a less hospitable place for them to live.


36 posted on 11/18/2015 9:14:03 AM PST by gaijin
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So you are saying all Muslims are Jihadist?

WE don't need to say it. It is in the Koran.

37 posted on 11/18/2015 9:14:51 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: basil

I’m no expert, but I can’t imagine that freedom of religion allows someone to advance hatred and killing of American citizens. Seems the perfect cover, though. I’ve always said that islam is naziism with a twist of religion thrown in for cover.

If imams and mosques are the hub of terrorist promotion and planning, authorities would be fools and derelict of duty to NOT step in.


38 posted on 11/18/2015 9:18:04 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: basil

Any “religion” that promotes irrational, evil ideas can be banned.

We never allowed the polygamy of the Mormons or the voodooism of Satanists.

Only Christians were allowed on the court at Founding because it is the “faith” that created the Age of Reason (it is a rational religion). Our Rule of Law is based on Right Reason. (Anything irrational is unconstitutional—like homosexual “marriage”-—whoops-—we are post-Constitutional—aren’t we with the sodomites trying to collapse civilization (Natural Law/Age of Reason).

Since our Constitution is based on the belief of God-Given Natural Rights that predate governments. Ideologies that reject the Constitution (Supreme Law of the Land)——can not honestly be citizens of this country.

Their ideology can not be in conflict with Rule of Law and Natural Rights of ALL people. There is ONE supreme law in America-—and it is based on Natural Laws and God’s Laws-—and allah is in conflict with the Constitution-—it should be ejected-—not allowed in the public square.


39 posted on 11/18/2015 9:18:28 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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Question:

Were the Turks who booed the minute of silence for Paris and chanted aluha akbar (or whatever their stupid saying is) at the soccer game jihadists or moderates?


40 posted on 11/18/2015 9:21:20 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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