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Twin Peaks bikers' lawyers contest DA Reyna's discovery waiver [Waco]
AP via Waco Tribune Herald ^ | November 19, 2015

Posted on 11/20/2015 12:46:34 PM PST by don-o

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To: mac_truck
For example, if you are so damn sure defense counsel are in malpractice, then their clients should sue them. Anything else is giving in to the malpractice defense bar. LOL.

The court will decide if the gag waiver is required, but not on Reyna's motion. He's withholding evidence, and you say defense is guilty of malpractice?

You are a real piece of work there, idiot.

21 posted on 11/20/2015 11:19:11 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: X-spurt
Your pejorative statement shows you would decide guilt upon the manner of conveyance employed, and nothing else. I would safely assert there are more criminals in automobiles than ever graced a motorcycle.

But, hey, thanks for playing.

22 posted on 11/20/2015 11:23:42 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: rolling_stone
-- he should be sanctioned up to throwing out the cases... --

That's his goal, but he has to put up the appearance of a fight to make it "look real." His mission is to keep the evidence out of public view, including keeping it out of trials.

The government is better off losing trials and hiding evidence, than it is in showing the evidence. But it can't appear to be voluntarily throwing the fight.

23 posted on 11/20/2015 11:25:20 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: rolling_stone

The DA has inserted a condition into the discovery process that exposes the strategy of these huckster attorneys who want to deliberately leak evidence in an attempt to taint the jury pool and force a change in venue.

This waiver tactic is either acceptable or not in the eyes of the court, but it has nothing to do with the guilt or innocence of those bikers who were arrested. The notion that charges will get thrown out over this matter is absurd.


24 posted on 11/21/2015 6:31:20 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Cboldt; don-o

I just stumbled into the August 2015 Texas Gang Threat Assessment. I don’t recall this being discussed. It still only identifies one Outlaw Motorcycle Gang, the Bandidos.

https://www.dps.texas.gov/director_staff/media_and_communications/2015/txGangThreatAssessment.pdf


25 posted on 11/21/2015 6:31:51 AM PST by Elderberry
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To: X-spurt
Otherwise all the cryin to the cameras will get em no where.

Concurring bump...it does nothing positive for their clients either.

26 posted on 11/21/2015 6:34:58 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I would safely assert there are more criminals in automobiles than ever graced a motorcycle.

What a brave bet....... Now if you care to make the comparison on percentages, your assertion falls a part.

Its unarguable that there were more criminals at TP that Sunday than at any other restaurant at that same time in Waco, in Texas, in America.


27 posted on 11/21/2015 6:50:53 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: mac_truck

Signing a “discovery waiver” looks like malpractice to me.


28 posted on 11/21/2015 7:19:49 AM PST by MortMan (I am offended by those who believe they have a right not to be offended.)
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To: mac_truck

Abelino Reyno should obey the law.


29 posted on 11/21/2015 7:26:48 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: MortMan

LOL!

If I were paying someone who spent their time doing press conferences whining about the DA rather than working on my defense, I’d fire them pronto.


30 posted on 11/21/2015 9:07:56 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: don-o

Who says he isn’t...besides your boy Broden and these other hucksters?


31 posted on 11/21/2015 9:09:47 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: mac_truck
Broden speech from 11/15

If you can listen to this and still disparage Clint Broden, then I will know we have nothing further to communicate about on this matter.

Will you listen to him?

32 posted on 11/21/2015 9:55:26 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: X-spurt
Its unarguable that there were more criminals at TP that Sunday than at any other restaurant at that same time in Waco, in Texas, in America.

There are a lot of rib joints in the country, not to mention other restaurants. Of those at TP who were arrested, (not even all the people there) only 1/3 had a criminal record.

So, if you want to play percentage games, I'd wager there are lots of places you could go in the USA where there are more than 1/3 in attendance who have a criminal record, and if you want to get near Washington D.C., it is likely there are more unindicted criminals in everything from the vicinity of a hot dog cart to the very best restaurants.

Just come out and say it. Somewhere, someone with loud pipes made you wet your pants, and you have never gotten over it.

33 posted on 11/21/2015 2:41:00 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Let’s see 150 guns confiscated from TP gangsters. Maybe your 1/3 had 3 each.........

Last time I took Texas CHL and unless the law has changed, it is a crime to take a firearm into a bar. Guess there were more than 56 ‘criminals’ at TP that day.

Been to a few damn rough joints, doubt there were 150 criminals there, but then again I don’t generally go to biker hangouts.

Anyone who imagines that most of those arrested won’t end up being convicted are dreaming.


34 posted on 11/21/2015 3:22:36 PM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: X-spurt
Maybe your damn rough joints were smaller than the ones I went to. The firearms confiscated were taken from vehicles, saddlebags, off of individuals outside the bar. Gee whiz. As for 150 firearms, I remember when you could count that hanging in the back windows of pickups at the local High School.

If two thirds of the people arrested there had no criminal record, and there were a lot more people (no one specified who the firearms were taken from nor where the firearms were, except in a couple of instances) then that's 118 people who could legally have a firearm in their possession, just of the arrested. Add in miscellaneous unarrested but detained) people in the parking lot, and those who had more than one firearm with them, it wouldn't take much (in Texas, no less!) to count up to 150 firearms. All the police have to do is take everyone else's firearms, and they'd likely have that many.

Anyone who imagines that most of those arrested won't end up being convicted are dreaming.

We shall see, won't we.

In the meantime, there is that presumption of innocence thingy you just don't seem to get. Pejorative terms like "gangsters" really don't bolster your case, they just make you look like a wannabe jackboot.

35 posted on 11/21/2015 3:59:38 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: X-spurt; Smokin' Joe
"Last time I took Texas CHL and unless the law has changed, it is a crime to take a firearm into a bar. "

Not in the Twin Peaks incident as it derives at least 51% of its income from food not alcohol.

According to Texas Penal Code Annotated Section 46.035 it is unlawful to carry a handgun (even by a licensed holder) in a bar: "(1) on the premises of a business that has a permit or license issued under Chapter 25, 28, 32, 69, or 74, Alcoholic Beverage Code, if the business derives 51 percent or more of its income from the sale or service of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption, as determined by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission under Section 104.06"

Therefore, Twin Peaks is a restaurant, not a bar according to Texas and a licensed holder CAN carry inside.

36 posted on 11/21/2015 4:18:39 PM PST by TennesseeGirl (Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it. - Edmund Burke 1790)
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To: TennesseeGirl

How easy is it to grab convenient figures out of thin air?

I will give you some benefit of the doubt that you may be correct on TP meeting that criteria.

You have intimate verifiable knowledge of the Waco Twin Peaks accounting?

As the old saying may be in order, “Figures don’t lie, but lots of liars figure”.


37 posted on 11/21/2015 6:56:47 PM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Gangster, let’s see, if it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, swims like a duck, looks like a duck...... very likely its not a kangaroo.


38 posted on 11/21/2015 7:01:57 PM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: X-spurt
Thanks for the zoology lesson.

You really are silly.

If you think you can tell who is or isn't a gangster by the clothes they wear, the vehicle they drive, or even the company they keep, I hope you have your retirement fund with Corzine.

The biggest crooks out there are wearing suits or clothes for the idle rich.

They aren't hanging out in restaurants where the waitresses are busty (not a titty bar), and they serve cheezeburgers and beer, unless the joint has at least 4 stars or is a family operation.

You act like people with no criminal record arrested on a fill in the blank warrant are all guilty. You would deny these people any presumption of innocence.

I sincerely hope you have no connection with law enforcement or the courts.

39 posted on 11/22/2015 2:03:05 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Your folks are the ones intentionally dressing like outlaws and acting like outlaws. Their intimidation of the public ploy is to look guilty. Terroism defined no differently than CripsnBloods or ISIS.

Crime is not a comparative activity.

My connection? Many that see this like me WILL be the jury. Don’t Mess With Texas.


40 posted on 11/22/2015 4:13:03 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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