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To: VinL

Vin, I use your statement only to leapfrog, but not to single you out.

Trump and Cruz supporters would be wise to understand each other.

The “Mississippi Treatment” is the GOP go-to strategy after it worked so superbly at the state level, and it will be just as happily employed against Cruz, as it is surely being played out now against Trump.

If we stubbornly refuse to coalesce around a conservative front runner who is independent of the Wall Street globalist donor class and the TPP/illegal immigration compromisers, we don’t really have an electorate smart enough for democracy to work. Do we?

This seems insane to me to fight like cats and dogs against Trump and think it helps Cruz, who has half the guns to fight back. Does Anyone really think their guy can survive, if a guy that is busting 43% already on an issues poll, can be taken down?

May I be the first to say— that if Trump could be felled, that Cruz is going straight through the floor too. This is the playbook. Conservatives will never get such a heavily evangelical conservative nominee out of the South, not in a now secular USA. Bank that.

This is about the GOP forces either endlessly resurrecting Jeb, or buying the mule Rubio, otherwise, if one of these or Kasich can’t drag their weight, they will cheerfully take Hillary.

The goal is TPP/illegal immigration and fundamentally transforming America. It is not to elect some conservative as the nominee. LOL!

Trump just was guilty of over performing. And, he still is.


22 posted on 11/24/2015 9:33:43 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: RitaOK

As a Cruz supporter, I don’t bash Trump for the reasons you state. I think there are a lot of us out here.


23 posted on 11/24/2015 9:40:19 AM PST by subterfuge (TED CRUZ FOR POTUS!)
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To: RitaOK

“The “Mississippi Treatment” is the GOP go-to strategy after it worked so superbly at the state level, and it will be just as happily employed against Cruz, as it is surely being played out now against Trump.”

But if this is true, where are they going to get a perambulating corpse like Thad Cochran? Well there is Yebbie, but it looks as though he’s already assumed room temperature for all practical purposes.


28 posted on 11/24/2015 10:55:06 AM PST by vette6387
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To: RitaOK

The goal is TPP/illegal immigration and fundamentally transforming America. It is not to elect some conservative as the nominee. LOL!

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Hey Rita, just got back home.

I have to respectfully disagree with designation of the “goal”. You correctly identify the threshold problem as the GOP establishment. However, one must take that point a step further; that is, so long as the current elite remains in control of the GOP, there can be no fundamental transformation in America.

Our goal then can only be dismantling the current GOP establishment, and returning the GOP to its limited government origins.

As for Trump v. Cruz, I’m still not certain that they are not in fact working in concert. I touched on that fact with you some time back when Trump went after Carson. You may recall, I indicated that it seemed Trump was helping Cruz in Iowa, especially where it would have been better for Trump to allow Carson and Cruz to split the Iowa evangelicals.

Trump went further when he rhetorically asked if “Iowans were stupid”, and still further when he opted out of appearing at Vander Plaat’s forum. Trump is not dumb, and these were not smart political moves.

It seems to me that Trump is ceding Iowa to Cruz. But, at the same time, Cruz attacked Rubio. There was no reason for that attack- it was premature. But, the effect of the attack would be to help Trump in NH, where Trump’s only real challenge is Rubio, (Cruz currently only has the hope for 3rd or 4th place).

It would not be beyond imagination that Cruz formulated a strategy whereby Trump and him would freeze out the Gop-e candidates in the first 4 primary states.

Anyway, we’ll wait to see how Trump reacts to Cruz’s rise in the polls.


31 posted on 11/24/2015 1:44:16 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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