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Why Donald Trump may think he saw people cheering on 9/11
Washington Post ^ | 11/24/2015 | By Max Ehrenfreund

Posted on 11/24/2015 1:25:42 PM PST by SeekAndFind

There's a difference between a lie and an honest mistake. However slight, it's a crucial distinction in politics, and especially in the campaign of Donald Trump.

On Saturday, the real-estate magnate insisted that after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, he watched news footage of "thousands of thousands of people" celebrating in northern New Jersey -- "where you have large Arab populations," in his words.

Journalists have searched news archives for any evidence of such footage and turned up empty handed. Public officials and law enforcement in New Jersey say Trump's account is utterly false.

But Trump's assertion might not be a bald-faced lie. Psychologists suggest that people unconsciously fabricate memories all the time, and that Trump might have done the same.

"I can't say that he's not lying," said Deryn Strange, a psychologist at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York. "But my research, and the research of my colleagues, certainly supports a more charitable interpretation: that this is a false memory."

There is a well-circulated video clip of Palestinians celebrating the attacks in the West Bank, as The Washington Post's Glenn Kessler has reported. Newspapers, including The Post, stated that police had detained some people in northern New Jersey who were allegedly partying on rooftops and watching the mayhem in New York. The Newark Star-Ledger later reported that “rumors of rooftop celebrations of the attack by Muslims here proved unfounded."

Trump might have conflated the two in his mind. "I can easily conceive how he could have developed this memory," Strange said. "All you need is a suggestion."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: New Jersey; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 911; chrischristie; districtofcolumbia; donaldtrump; election2016; maxehrenfreund; muslims; newjersey; newyork; sergekovaleski; trump; washingtoncompost; washingtonpost
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1 posted on 11/24/2015 1:25:42 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Except the WaPo actually printed a story confirming his statement


2 posted on 11/24/2015 1:27:35 PM PST by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: SeekAndFind

Another FReeper posted an old WaPo story from 9/18/2001 reporting that these celebrations DID OCCUR!!

The Power of Suggestion here appears to be the suggestion from your editors that you forget all about it.


3 posted on 11/24/2015 1:27:40 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump might have conflated the two in his mind

I” saw the palestinians reaction and I didn’t conflate ANYTHING.”


4 posted on 11/24/2015 1:27:47 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><> GO CRUZ!!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Washington post making excuses for him. Let me show you how it’s done son (charlie daniels line)


5 posted on 11/24/2015 1:27:59 PM PST by BRL
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To: SeekAndFind

Like we trust the journalistic integrity of the Newark Star Ledger, that paper is Hillary’s personal newsletter


6 posted on 11/24/2015 1:28:14 PM PST by arl295
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To: SeekAndFind

I saw dancing in the streets among people in the Arab/Muslim world after 9/11. We can debate whether American Muslims were celebrating. But Trump did not fabricate this. Maybe he saw the same news coverage of celebrations in the Middle East that I saw.


7 posted on 11/24/2015 1:28:48 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah...that’s it. /sarc


8 posted on 11/24/2015 1:28:49 PM PST by calisurfer
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey asshat Max. he is not delusional as you are trying to make it sound now. Did you note that your paper noted there were reports of this happening.

The only fully delusional politician I know of is at 1600 Penn
Ave. You can find him right in front of your editors as they kiss his ass.


9 posted on 11/24/2015 1:29:10 PM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I bet that local TV stations scrubbed their archives.


10 posted on 11/24/2015 1:29:33 PM PST by forgotten man
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To: Fai Mao
I read the article. Damn right it happened. Now the Washington Post said the article was not true at all.

Let the media duke it out...it's just another lets waste everyone's time event.

11 posted on 11/24/2015 1:30:02 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Buckeye McFrog

The celebrations where thousands were photographed, occurred in Gaza and the West bank IIRC . Not NJ....but that’s just me..


12 posted on 11/24/2015 1:30:32 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Fai Mao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5BtQgTGOI4


13 posted on 11/24/2015 1:30:36 PM PST by mikelets456
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To: forgotten man

You can bet on it.


14 posted on 11/24/2015 1:30:57 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind

So now that the media “fact checkers” have been proven either liars or incompetent in claiming there were no news stories to back up Trump, they now are focusing on whether he saw footage of it or jut read about it. Trump lives in NY, so he could have seen it on a local station. Is every piece of news footage on every local news show archived and searchable? I doubt it. Pathetic that they are still pushing the false narrative.


15 posted on 11/24/2015 1:31:15 PM PST by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Saw reports on TV of the celebrations and saw live from Trump Tower the jumping to death.

Sounds reasonable to me.


16 posted on 11/24/2015 1:31:20 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Fai Mao

This eyewitness wrote about the experience:

I live in Jersey and Trump is right: Muslims DID celebrate on 9/11 in NJ . . . we saw it!

Read more: http://www.bizpacreview.com/2015/11/23/live-jersey-trump-right-muslims-celebrate-911-nj-saw-277082#ixzz3sRmVbURe


17 posted on 11/24/2015 1:31:47 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump is right, this all did happen, I remember listening to the accounts on 101.5 people called it were upset that the muslims were celebrating this. I remember one account of middle eastern men pulled their car over on the turnpike and were dancing on the side of the road with the smoke of the world trade center in the back ground

This liberal false narrative that this didn’t happen pisses me off


18 posted on 11/24/2015 1:32:22 PM PST by arl295
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To: SeekAndFind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5BtQgTGOI4


19 posted on 11/24/2015 1:32:49 PM PST by TBP (Nous sommes tout Francais.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We’re crazy.

Who do you want to believe, your lying eyes or the MSM that constantly whitewashes Islam?


20 posted on 11/24/2015 1:33:16 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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