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We should definitely challenge Ted Cruz's citizenship if he is elected president
Hot Air.com ^ | November 28, 2015 | JAZZ SHAW

Posted on 11/28/2015 8:27:12 AM PST by Kaslin

Texas Senator Ted Cruz has been rising in the polls of late, not only in Iowa, but nationally as well. (And high time, if you ask me.) It’s far too soon to declare him a resident of the top tier aside Trump with so few samples, but the prospect of his being a serious contender for the nomination can’t be discounted. And if he wins the Party’s endorsement, he may be in fine shape to take on Hillary Clinton and then be sworn in as the 45th President of the United States. So then what?

Well, at least according to Alan Grayson, we should file a beautiful lawsuit to challenge his qualifications to hold the office. (Mediaite)

Florida Congressman Alan Grayson told radio host Alan Colmes Wednesday that if Ted Cruz is elected president, he "will file that beautiful lawsuit saying that he's unqualified for the job" according to the Constitution.

Cruz was born in Canada to a native-born American mother, making the presidential candidate a dual Canadian-American citizen. It was not until a 2013 Dallas Morning News article that Cruz acknowledged his Canadian citizenry publicly. In 2014, the senator renounced his Canadian citizenship altogether.

Lamenting the "appalling choices" Republicans have to choose among, Grayson told Colmes the Republican race "resolved itself into this weird reality show."

Even if Grayson is just grousing and looking for a way to throw darts at Cruz, I think this is a great idea and we should absolutely move forward with it in the event that Ted Cruz is elected. In fact, it should start the day after he’s sworn in because this would no doubt take quite a while. I don’t say this because I have any doubt that Cruz would qualify under our current interpretation of the law.. he would. Under Title 8 rules we have what is currently a broadly accepted definition who who qualifies as a natural citizen at the time of their birth as opposed to someone who is naturalized. Cruz would most likely qualify under section (e) but most certainly under section (g)

a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years

There’s just one problem with deciding that Cruz is qualified based on that snippet of legislation: it’s never been challenged all the way up through the courts and this issue keeps coming up over and over again. I’m not even talking about Barack Obama here; you may recall that Congress actually had to go to the trouble of passing a resolution in 2008 stating that John McCain was a natural born citizen. (McCain was born in Panama to a military family on assignment and his parents were citizens.)

So why not just pass another amendment like that for Ted Cruz? Because it doesn’t solve anything. The phrase natural born citizen is essentially unique in the writings of the Founders and they didn’t do a very good job of explaining themselves. If we had a ruling from the Supremes to put into the books not just on Ted Cruz in particular, but on the exact meaning of the phrase we could be done with this once and for all. It seems self evident that the Founders drew a clear distinction between two types of citizens; natural born and naturalized. Cruz, like McCain, never went through the naturalization process since it was always assumed they were citizens at the time of their birth, so they are either natural born citizens or they’re illegal aliens.

No matter how often we scratch our heads over the various rulings handed down from the Supremes these days, I can’t see where we lose on this one. Let them nail this thing down once and for all so we can be done with it without having to go through another constitutional amendment. It won’t affect President Cruz one bit and we can spare future generations all of this nonsense.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alangrayson; citizens; johnmccain; leftwinglunatic; naturalborncitizen; tedcruz
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To: Lurkinanloomin

I agree with you with the exception of Obama setting a precedent - perhaps so but it should not be allowed to stand.

This guy may be a nut job but in this I support him. Cruz is in no way qualified to be President by honest rendering of the Constitution. Being a Constitutional scholar, I’m sure he knows this.

At some point this country has got to put it’s foot down, say no more, laws matter. We are currently running what, twelve candidates for nomination? Of that twelve, Cruz and Rubio are NOT qualified. Jindal was not either, at least he has dropped out.

It seems that everyone feels since the Democrats and Obama made a mockery of the Constitution, the Republicans can also.


21 posted on 11/28/2015 8:55:50 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: fatnotlazy
We have 300,000 to 400,000 children (anchor babies) born to illegal aliens annually. They are citizens at birth. Should they be eligible to be President? Anyone born in Puerto Rico and Guam are US citizens at birth. We have birth tourism where women come in from all over the globe to have their children in the US, giving the children a US passport.

This does need to be adjudicated by SCOTUS. We are fast approaching the highest ratio of immigrants to native born in our history. In 1970 one in 21 was foreign-born; today it is less than one in 8, the highest in 105 years; and within a decade it will be one in 7, the highest in our history.


22 posted on 11/28/2015 8:58:24 AM PST by kabar
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To: ontap

All of our candidates for the 2016 election have been vetted. The drive-by media was never interested in vetting that arrogant pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave


23 posted on 11/28/2015 8:58:45 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Duchess47

Every president to date was either a citizen at the adoption of the Constitution in 1789 or born in the United States; of those in the latter group, every president except two (Chester A. Arthur and Barack Obama) had two U.S.-citizen parents.


24 posted on 11/28/2015 9:00:53 AM PST by kabar
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To: ontap

Ted Cruz became a Canadian citizen at birth. Canada also has birthright citizenship. Obama was born in the US (supposedly) thereby making him a citizen at birth (jus solis).


25 posted on 11/28/2015 9:02:50 AM PST by kabar
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To: MuttTheHoople
We elected B. Hussein twice?

Don't tell me you voted for that arrogant pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

I certainly did not

26 posted on 11/28/2015 9:02:54 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: P-Marlowe

Count on it. Wrong or not, they will do it.


27 posted on 11/28/2015 9:04:02 AM PST by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: kabar

Yes, and Chester Arthur should not have been President. We all know that Obama should not have been.

Continuing down this path will destroy what is left of this country. I do not understand how this is not important to people.


28 posted on 11/28/2015 9:05:15 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Kaslin

Challenge it now, Ted Cruz would be happy for the media attention while he pounds Grayson into a pulp with extra ugly.


29 posted on 11/28/2015 9:05:36 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: kabar

Ted Cruz got dual citizenship at birth. He didn’t require naturalization in either nation. He has since renounced his Canadian citizenship.


30 posted on 11/28/2015 9:07:07 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: Kaslin
Different source, same storyline from yesterday with over
100 comments if anyone is interested.

Alan Grayson Threatens Lawsuit on Citizenship Grounds if Ted Cruz Is the GOP Nominee

31 posted on 11/28/2015 9:07:45 AM PST by deport
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To: kabar

What you ignore is that Ted Cruz’s mother was or is a natural born US Citizen. Which makes him a natural born US Citizen.


32 posted on 11/28/2015 9:07:54 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kozy

IMHO - first, we have walked down this road once. Second, if there is any doubt it needs to be settled beofre the election; otherwise, the Democrats will claim the victory regardless how badly they lost.


33 posted on 11/28/2015 9:09:55 AM PST by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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To: ontap

For one thing Ted Cruz didn’t hide anything, unlike that arrogant pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.


34 posted on 11/28/2015 9:11:06 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: kabar

I agree 100% that the issue does need adjudicated.

However since the largest segment of the American demographic....white Anglo Saxon Protestants doesn’t even have representation on the Supreme Court, I’m doubtful if it would be resolved in legacy American interests.


35 posted on 11/28/2015 9:19:36 AM PST by apoliticalone (Political correctness should be defined as news media that exposes political corruption)
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To: Duchess47
News Flash!!! Bobby Jindal was was born in on June 10, 1971 in Baton Rouge, LA. His parents entered the U.S. in 1971 on green cards (meaning they were legal immigrants secured through Bobby's father, Amar Jindal and his participation in "a program by the federal government to increase the number of engineers."


36 posted on 11/28/2015 9:20:20 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: kabar
Obama was born in the US (supposedly) thereby making him a citizen at birth (jus solis).

Except in a self-authored booklet he said he was born in Kenya (unless the photo I saw was of a counterfeit which is possible).

37 posted on 11/28/2015 9:21:40 AM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: cripplecreek

Exactly. Some people just don’t get it.


38 posted on 11/28/2015 9:22:57 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: ontap

He does not have a fake birth certificate.

I think that’s the most obvious difference.


39 posted on 11/28/2015 9:23:46 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: cripplecreek
While at home in Houston on Tuesday, Cruz was notified by mail that the renunciation became official on May 14, 2014, The Dallas Morning News reports.

I wonder why he waited so long.

40 posted on 11/28/2015 9:25:23 AM PST by kabar
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