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To: Windflier
That's a strange, backhanded way to frame a question.

OK, let me frame it this way. Assuming any candidate who says he will deport the illegals first and close the borders can be trusted to do what he says. Therefore we can trust Trump to do that. But Cruz who has said he would close the borders first and then deal lawfully with the resident illegals after the borders are secured, cannot be trusted because he will not give us specific details at this time. So the issue is really who do we trust the most, Trump or Cruz.

Most politicians and used car salesmen I don't trust as far as I could throw them, but Cruz I trust because he has a proven conservative track record in the Senate. Trump, not so much, because he has not been an elected official before and a democratic switch-over to boot. If nominated and elected, Trump will be running a nation with a Constitution and a rule of law, not a boardroom where he makes the rules.

I trust Trump says what needs to be said, but Cruz I trust to get done what needs to be done using the rule of law. And that is the difference.

So, let us agree to disagree for now.

140 posted on 11/30/2015 1:23:37 PM PST by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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To: Texicanus
Cruz who has said he would close the borders first and then deal lawfully with the resident illegals after the borders are secured, cannot be trusted because he will not give us specific details at this time. So the issue is really who do we trust the most, Trump or Cruz.

Of all the issues facing our beleaguered nation at this time, the issue of illegal immigration is the most important, because if we don't get this under control during the next presidential administration, the newly naturalized millions will ensure that Republicans never win another national election. It's all over but the crying, if we don't get it right this time.

Given the dire nature of this problem, it's incumbent upon every presidential candidate to speak as plainly to the issue as is humanly possible. We the people MUST know exactly where they stand, and exactly what they intend to do about the problem, if elected.

In that wise, Trump is unequivocal about what he intends to do. He doesn't parse words, or resort to lawyer-speak to answer questions about it. He says that he will build the fence, increase border patrols, enforce the laws on the books, take away the illegals' freebies, and deport those who are in the country illegally already. Those things are also in his published position paper.

They're the very things most Americans have been begging and pleading for, for over a decade.

Ted Cruz's plan looks great on paper, with the exception of the little noticed loophole of deporting "criminal" illegals. It bothers me that when queried about his stance in person, he resorts to the sort of slippery speech that we're all too familiar with from politicians, such as, we'll have a "conversation" about what to do with the tens of millions of illegals already in the country after the southern border is secured. There's just all kinds of room for reneging on his promises in such a statement.

162 posted on 11/30/2015 3:26:30 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Texicanus

I trust Cruz says what needs to be said, but Trump I trust to get done what needs to be done using the rule of law. And that is the difference.


177 posted on 11/30/2015 6:26:41 PM PST by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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