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San Bernardino Shooting Investigators Seek Clues to Motive
New York Times ^ | December 3, 2015 | By IAN LOVETT, RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA and MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT

Posted on 12/03/2015 8:34:10 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee

SAN BERNARDINO, Calif. — Investigators on Thursday hunted for a motive in the backgrounds of a husband and wife suspected in a shooting rampage that left 14 dead and 17 others wounded here, while federal agents traced the origins of the four guns recovered from the suspects — at least two of them bought legally — and officers combed through a sprawling set of crime scenes for evidence.

The suspects, identified as Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 27 — armed with .223-caliber assault rifles and semiautomatic handguns and wearing masks and body armor — are believed to have opened fire at a social services center here around 11 a.m. on Wednesday, unleashing the deadliest mass shooting since the assault on an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., nearly three years ago. They died hours later in a shootout with the police on a residential street.

The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives confirmed that it had traced all four guns, and that two were purchased legally by someone linked to the investigation. But the agency would not identify the buyer, identify which two weapons those were, or say where they were bought. . .

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: ca; farook; farooqsaaed; islam; sanbernardino; sanbernardinojihad; shooting
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To: Captain Compassion

Don’t forget the cameras. Can you get those at Walmart?


41 posted on 12/03/2015 9:18:59 AM PST by randita
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To: Brad from Tennessee
San Bernardino Shooting Investigators Seek Clues to Motive

Quick someone sell them a vowel...
42 posted on 12/03/2015 9:19:39 AM PST by novemberslady
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To: Ironfocus

I didn’t struggle with it at all. They’ve been planning something for months. They knew about the holiday party/conference (whatever it was) for some time. They were bound to strike somewhere sometime. Farouk knew the layout of the place which was to their advantage.


43 posted on 12/03/2015 9:22:26 AM PST by randita
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To: Candor7
Aesop's Fables, translated by Laura Gibbs (2002)

521. HERMES AND THE ARABS

Perry 309 (Babrius 57)

Hermes filled a cart with lies and dishonesty and all sorts of wicked tricks, and he journeyed in this cart throughout the land, going hither and thither from one tribe to another, dispensing to each nation a small portion of his wares. When he reached the land of the Arabs, so the story goes, his cart suddenly broke down along the way and was stuck there. The Arabs seized the contents of the cart as if it were a merchant's valuable cargo, stripping the cart bare and preventing Hermes from continuing on his journey, although there were still some people he had not yet visited. As a result, Arabs are liars and charlatans, as I myself have learned from experience. There is not a word of truth that springs from their lips.

And Aesop lived 1,200 years before there was islam, all mohammand did was to make a vile religion out of the Arab's nature. It deservers what the Thug religion got. 

44 posted on 12/03/2015 9:28:20 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: randita

Heck. You can get anything at Wal Mart. I think they had some RPGs on sale during Black Friday.


45 posted on 12/03/2015 9:32:52 AM PST by Captain Compassion
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Why waste your time and energy? We all know the motive. Muslim terrorism. It is part of their belief system. Wake-up and quit trying to cover-up.


46 posted on 12/03/2015 9:43:54 AM PST by mulligan (I)
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To: machogirl; Lurker

I surely hope that they are pulling away from the crime scene and instead of wondering if this was workplace violence, domestic terrorism or international terrorism, but look at the susceptibility of services and utilities of which he had ample access to.

If he had the presence of mind to have a bombs set on a radio controlled car, there may be other places that have time released explosives. Or at least, he could have tampered with the vulnerabilities of the “environments” his job as environmental inspector had.


47 posted on 12/03/2015 9:47:12 AM PST by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives confirmed that it had traced all four guns, and that two were purchased legally by someone linked to the investigation. But neither the senior official nor the bureau would identify either buyer by name, nor say which two weapons were bought by a suspect, or where they were bought.

Well, there's a lovely little graph that needs to be deconstructed.

Think of the guy that saw suspicious activity near the apt but didn't want to say anything for fear of being 'racist'. Now think of the 'Clock Boy' incident that primed that particular see-something-say-nothing pump recently. I'm wondering if there may be a connection. 'Clock Boy' was initiated to 'teach' people to *not* report suspicious activity. Then, the perps are free to operate.

48 posted on 12/03/2015 9:53:44 AM PST by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: mojito

Your theory has a lot of merit to it.

News reports state that many muslime males came and went from his abode. Other members of his sleeper cell, maybe?

They are out there, and our government does not care.


49 posted on 12/03/2015 10:00:53 AM PST by T-Bone Texan (The economic collapse is imminent. Buy staple food and OTC meds now, before prices skyrocket.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Umm, here let me help! ISLAM IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH AMERICA! Send them all back to where they came from.


50 posted on 12/03/2015 10:02:45 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (The last suit you wear has no pockets!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Motive=============ISLAM!


51 posted on 12/03/2015 10:06:09 AM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 HillaryForPrison2016)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
But the agency would not identify the buyer, identify which two weapons those were, or say where they were bought...............................You can bet that if the name was linked to a white Christian we would know that name!
52 posted on 12/03/2015 10:07:45 AM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 HillaryForPrison2016)
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To: mojito

Only problem was they drove around for 2 or 3 hours in the same city. Why didn’t they shoot everyone they saw? Suicide by cop.


53 posted on 12/03/2015 10:09:47 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (The last suit you wear has no pockets!)
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To: Flick Lives

Exactly my thoughts. That paragraph jumped out at me too. Of course the AK are tied to someone or event that doesn’t help teamobama gun agenda. If they were tied to a white Christian we would have known that yesterday.


54 posted on 12/03/2015 10:16:14 AM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 HillaryForPrison2016)
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To: US_MilitaryRules
Only problem was they drove around for 2 or 3 hours in the same city.

Did they? I didn't see that. My understanding, faulty as it may be, was that they returned to their residence after the first shootout (to reload possibly, or contact others for a rendezvous point) and were headed out to a destination unknown when spotted by the cops. The cops had arrived to the residence because rageboy had been IDed at the first crime scene. Yesterday when I was listening to some of the radio chatter, it seemed there was some concern that they were headed for a nearby Target store (ironic that) but that may have been a mistaken impression on my part.

55 posted on 12/03/2015 10:24:47 AM PST by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: Candor7

Hillary speak is institutionally supported lying as is Obama speak as well


56 posted on 12/03/2015 10:25:44 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPyes but now I must concentratc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trumping.)
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To: Flick Lives

Great analysis.


57 posted on 12/03/2015 10:32:51 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: lulu16

Hope so. I would hope in the most dense of Obots can see that these people did not make bombs as a “hobby” and just happened to have all this stuff on hand for a “workplace” arguement shooting. This is terrorism, MSM, not “domestic terrorism” but the kind associated with a religion that must not be named. They may not be able to walk in to a water treatment plant with poison, but how hard would it be to use alternative methods to get to a water system. The municipal system might catch the poison water before it got out (or bio contaminated) but the chaos caused by having to shut down wells, major water treatment plants? That’s terror. I don’t trust this Administration with a darn thing. If this Administration is that incompetant, inept, stupid to think outside the box, use some of us avg. American Citizens to “think tank” for them. I despise this Administration and it’s Community-Organizer-in-Chief for what he has inflicted on our Country.


58 posted on 12/03/2015 10:41:59 AM PST by machogirl
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To: mojito

Where did they go? Just saying. You think they just went and sat there for a few hours and got in their car and started driving around again? Oh well.


59 posted on 12/03/2015 11:13:01 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (The last suit you wear has no pockets!)
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To: machogirl

What you ahve said bear s repeating elsewhere on this forum, Macho girl.


60 posted on 12/03/2015 11:26:26 AM PST by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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