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This is a Brilliant Move by Donald Trump
Red State ^ | Erik Erickson

Posted on 12/07/2015 8:16:38 PM PST by VinL

Donald Trump just trumped all the Republican candidates for President.

The day after the mom jeans wearing squat to pee President came out to assure us that tolerance, gun control, and climate change would save us from ISIS, Donald Trump demanded we bar any muslims from entering this country and bar any American citizen who is muslim from re-entering the United States.

Set aside the merits of what amounts to at least, in part, an unconstitutional position.

This is actually brilliant politics for the here and now. Immediately, every other Republican candidate except Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% rushed out to attack Donald Trump. He’s unhinged, hateful, etc. And the responses all amounted to "we must let muslims enter our country," which sounds a whole lot like "we must allow all Mexicans in our country," which everyone knows is blatantly untrue on both counts.

We do not have to do it, but the other candidates, unable to nuance their spittle, went all in with "no religious tests" and "yes we must do this because it is who we are."

So, to put it another way, the day after the President failed to reassure a scared public following the second worst terrorist attack since 9/11 on domestic soil, Donald Trump not only got himself to the right of all the other candidates, but also got every single one of them save for Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% to align themselves with Barack Obama.

Hate Donald Trump all you want, be offended by his proposal all you want, but it is really brilliant politics for Trump right now in the Republican primary and the reactions from the other candidates prove it. All the people attacking Trump on his immigration proposals now attacking him on this have done themselves no favors within the primary process.

Have none of these people read Art of the Deal? This is an opening, bombastic salvo to set the terms of negotiations and the other candidates except Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% just decided to negotiation in Barack Obama’s position. And it comes at a time some polls are suggesting Trump is starting to fade in places like Iowa.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York; US: Texas
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To: Bulwinkle

And just how would that be?


21 posted on 12/07/2015 8:31:02 PM PST by dforest
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To: Lurker

and then, when the nest high profile Jihadi attack occurs, and we all know it will occur, he will be able to say “I told you so but you didn’t want to hear it”.


22 posted on 12/07/2015 8:32:59 PM PST by RC one (....and subject to the jurisdiction thereof)
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To: VinL

“....and bar any American citizen who is muslim from re-entering the United States”

Huh? I didn’t hear Trump say that, nor was it in his press release.


23 posted on 12/07/2015 8:33:18 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (B. Hussein Obama: 20 acts of Treason and counting.)
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To: Bulwinkle

Sorry, but ya got that backwards. Trump leads the way back to America FIRST!


24 posted on 12/07/2015 8:33:54 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: RC one

Indeed.


25 posted on 12/07/2015 8:34:07 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: nopardons

Agree 100%. Cruz demonstrated again, for those who think he isn’t that he’s the consummate politician. Not condemning Trump but condemning him all the same while splitting hairs over ‘radical Islamic terrorism’ versus Muslims. There is no difference. Cruz is a weasel, he’s just the least worst option of all the elected officials currently running. Trump is damn refreshing and says what he says and there’s a method to his madness. Give it a few days.


26 posted on 12/07/2015 8:35:13 PM PST by usafa92 (Conservative in Jersey)
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To: Don W
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27 posted on 12/07/2015 8:35:41 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: Popman

From what I can tell Trump never said that about citizens yet this is the 3rd article saying he did,


28 posted on 12/07/2015 8:36:29 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (B. Hussein Obama: 20 acts of Treason and counting.)
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To: Popman

Immigrants= citizens?


29 posted on 12/07/2015 8:36:43 PM PST by crosdaddy
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Well, that statement wasn’t in quotations so maybe the MSM is putting words in his mouth again ...which would not be surprising...


31 posted on 12/07/2015 8:39:54 PM PST by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: VinL
EE's argument makes sense....and his last line reflected what I thought:

Have none of these people read Art of the Deal? This is an opening, bombastic salvo to set the terms of negotiations and the other candidates except Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% just decided to negotiation in Barack Obama's position.

32 posted on 12/07/2015 8:40:09 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: CatOwner

Quotes from Trump’s Art of the Deal.

“My style of deal-making is quite simple and straightforward,” he writes. “I aim very high, and then I just keep pushing and pushing to get what I’m after. Sometimes I settle for less than I sought, but in most cases I still end up with what I want.”

If you’re satisfied knowing that you can comfortably make a deal that doesn’t require much effort, then you’re not thinking big enough.

“Most people think small, because most people are afraid of success, afraid of making decisions, afraid of winning,” he writes. “And that gives people like me a great advantage.”

“I always go into the deal anticipating the worst,” he writes. “If you plan for the worst — if you can live with the worst — the good will always take care of itself.”

“I never get too attached to one deal or one approach,” Trump writes. “For starters, I keep a lot of balls in the air, because most deals fall out, no matter how promising they seem at first. In addition, once I’ve made a deal, I always come up with at least a half dozen approaches to making it work, because anything can happen, even to the best-laid plans.”

“Use your leverage.”
The only way you’re going to make the deal you want, he says, is if you’re coming from a position of strength and can convince the other side that you have something they need.

Trump says he’s not afraid to blur reality to utilize leverage. “When the board of Holiday Inn was considering whether to enter into a partnership with me in Atlantic City, they were attracted to my site because they believed my construction was farther along than that of any other potential partner.”

“In reality,” he writes, “I wasn’t that far along, but I did everything I could, short of going to work at the site myself, to assure them that my casino was practically finished. My leverage came from confirming an impression they were already predisposed to believe.”

“I play to people’s fantasies,” he writes. “People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular.”

“Fight back.”
Trump says that he prefers to be cooperative and positive, but that sometimes it’s necessary to be confrontational when the other side is treating him unfairly or trying to take advantage of him.

“The risk is that you’ll make a bad situation worse, and I certainly don’t recommend this approach to everyone,” he writes. “But my experience is that if you’re fighting for something you believe in — even if it means alienating some people along the way — things usually work out for the best in the end.”

“Deliver the goods.”
“You can’t con people, at least not for long,” Trump writes. “You can create excitement, you can do wonderful promotion and get all kinds of press, and you can throw in a little hyperbole. But if you can’t deliver the goods, people will eventually catch on.”

“Have fun.”
Successful deal-making should be about the thrill of winning and accomplishing something, not solely for making money, Trump says.

“Money was never a big motivation for me, except as a way to keep score,” he writes. “The real excitement is playing the game.”

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-business-philosophy-from-the-art-of-the-deal-2015-6


33 posted on 12/07/2015 8:40:10 PM PST by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: Popman

——and bar any American citizen who is muslim from re-entering the United States.——

Anybody else see some serious consitutional issues here...?
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I don’t think he said that. The ONLY thing remotely like that was Trump saying Muslim Americans who go overseas & enlist in ISIS to do jihad should not be welcomed back into the country. I believe there may be precedence for this bar to reentry.


34 posted on 12/07/2015 8:40:47 PM PST by House Atreides (Cruz or lose! Do TG & Boogieman have to be asses every day?)
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To: VinL
This wasn't a political move by Trump. Brilliant yes, political no.

He is sincerely disgusted with this ISIS/Muslim shit. He proposed this because it's the right thing to do for the country...OUR COUNTRY.

Muslims have a problem, the Muslim problem is theirs to deal with, not ours.

Trump took a more conservative approach to the problem. And it is a problem...Cruz had a whiny weenie liberal response. No surprise.

35 posted on 12/07/2015 8:40:56 PM PST by lewislynn ( You know you're a Muslim if everything offends you.)
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To: Popman

Citizenship can be revoked. Having someone, who is a citizen, stay outside the country in perpetuity is called being “exiled”. There is nothing in the Constitution that this can not be done as far as I am aware of.


36 posted on 12/07/2015 8:41:38 PM PST by zaxtres
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To: House Atreides
Did you read this following section of the article?

This is Erick Erickson making an assertion. He is an idiot. Cruz's direct words are mushy.

37 posted on 12/07/2015 8:41:50 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: dforest

There is legal basis for excluding and deporting immigrants committed to an ideology which seeks to harm citizens and/or take over government. Muslims are just those types of persons and the religous component does not shelter them.

We just have to enforce it and strengthen it.


38 posted on 12/07/2015 8:41:54 PM PST by amihow (l)
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To: House Atreides

Cruz didn’t blast Trump, but neither did he support him.
I suggest that you find and read what Cruz said.


39 posted on 12/07/2015 8:43:10 PM PST by nopardons
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To: VinL

Trump and Cruz are both cagey and clever. Just what we need.

Further, I wish everyone would quit calling Islam a religion. It is not a religion but a political system. No religion admonishes murder of non-believers. They have no religious rights.


40 posted on 12/07/2015 8:43:29 PM PST by Calpublican (Muslims: Reform Your Crappy "Religion")
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