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Donald Trump wants to close up the Internet (ZOT!)
The Daily Dot ^ | 12/7/15 | Patrick Howell O'Neill

Posted on 12/07/2015 10:09:55 PM PST by UncleRicosFootball

Hours after Donald Trump suggested the U.S. ban Muslims from entering the United States, the leading Republican presidential candidate said America should also consider “closing the Internet up in some way” to fight Islamic State terrorists in cyberspace.

Trump mocked anyone who would object that his plan might violate the freedom of speech, saying “these are foolish people, we have a lot of foolish people.”

“We have to go see Bill Gates,” Trump said, to better understand the Internet and then possibly “close it up.”

(Excerpt) Read more at dailydot.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: antitrumpscreed; antitrumpsite; bigtroll; disinformation; donaldtrump; ibtz; lies; satire; troll; zot
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To: Finny

“Going to see” Bill Gates is my favorite part. It’s truly telling.

If this is who Trump sees as the go-to guy for information on the internet is speaks volumes about how little he knows. It also tells us to whom he’ll listen when it comes to solutions: an anti-freedom liberal. Nothing good can come from consulting with Gates about freedom.


141 posted on 12/08/2015 5:40:26 AM PST by FourPeas (Tone matters.)
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To: UncleRicosFootball; MeshugeMikey

If you want to close up the internet, talk to the guys who created the Obamacare website. They know all about D.O.S.P.O.S. software.

And shutting down the internet would mean a near end to offshoring of US tech sector jobs.


142 posted on 12/08/2015 5:49:47 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The goal of Socialism is Communism. Marx and Lenin were in agreement on this.)
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To: UncleRicosFootball

I’ve long been an advocate of bit-bucketing China’s routes to US blocks. At the very least, all APNIC traffic should be traversing some level of security (a monstrous undertaking to say the least). Why not cut off Pakistan and a couple other problem children too? Not much good comes from there


143 posted on 12/08/2015 6:02:48 AM PST by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: Mollypitcher1

>> I heard his speech and this bit is completely out of context <<

So what? “Out of context” is exactly what the MSM will always do when given a chance, and it’s exactly the tactic they will use to make sure Trump loses to Queen Hilary.

Therefore, because Trump appears totally unable to discipline his tongue enough to avoid remarks that can too easily be taken out of context, you may as well get used to the idea of Her Highness, Madam Rodham.


144 posted on 12/08/2015 6:09:29 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: Bob434
Trump Implosion, Scene 1, Take 752. Let's see if we can get it right this time fellas. Ready, set and roll....


145 posted on 12/08/2015 6:10:20 AM PST by SamAdams76 (Trump Spokeswoman Katrina Pierson's nickname is "Kat 5" Katrina)
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To: SamAdams76

“Ready anytime you are, CB!”-from a very old joke....


146 posted on 12/08/2015 6:11:16 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: American Constitutionalist
The liberals would shout with glee once they have control over the Internet.

It's not a far stretch to know that once this is put into place they will shut down web sites like Free Republic or prohibt Christian's free speech.

The law of Unintended consequences.


Yep. It's the camel's nose.

147 posted on 12/08/2015 6:13:04 AM PST by FourPeas (Tone matters.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

>> He says one thing brilliantly (stop muslim immigration) and then comes out with this idiocy <<

Uhh, he didn’t say to stop just Muslim “immigration.”

No, he said we should temporarily ban ALL Muslims. Therefore, not even Israel’s best friend, King Hussein of Jordan, would be allowed to enter the USA.

Now of course, you and I can be reasonably confident that Trump didn’t really mean we should in truth go to this extreme.

But I submit that once such a crazy statement is made, no amount of “walking back” is going to undo all of the damage — especially the damage to our relationships with friendly Muslim countries like Indonesia and Egypt.


148 posted on 12/08/2015 6:26:32 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: maine-iac7

Nope.

Don’t care.

Go Trump!


149 posted on 12/08/2015 6:26:46 AM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: a fool in paradise; UncleRicosFootball; MeshugeMikey

>> If you want to close up the internet, talk to the guys who created the Obamacare website <<

Better than that, talk to the Chinese domestic security services (a/k/a secret police). They are the true masters of the planet when it comes to blocking certain “objectionable” parts of the Internet.


150 posted on 12/08/2015 6:41:34 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: Hawthorn

Where were these critics on the Left when Obaam was calling for an emergency off switch he could direct for the internet in America?

http://www.cnet.com/news/obama-signs-order-outlining-emergency-internet-control/


151 posted on 12/08/2015 6:45:45 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The goal of Socialism is Communism. Marx and Lenin were in agreement on this.)
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To: Hawthorn

“damage to our relationships with friendly Muslim countries”

OK, you tell me. The Koran says Kill the infidel. How do you suppose any non Muz is or can by any definition BE ‘friends’ with that? How does an Infidel trust a muslim who believes to his core that lying to muslims id perfectly fine and in fact called for when the ultimate goal is conquest and/or subjugation?

It’s time to stop lying to ourselves. Muslims mean what they say when it comes to us infidels. Thats the ONLY thing we can trust with them. There are no moderates. I don’t care whose neighbor is a ‘moderate’. When the chips are down, they will not side with American infidels. Thus they are as bad as any open jihadist.

SCREW Jordan. SCREW Egypt. America first, last and always.


152 posted on 12/08/2015 6:48:16 AM PST by Norm Lenhart (`)
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To: Norm Lenhart

EDit - Lying to non muslims.

Then again, they lie to each other with no issue as well.


153 posted on 12/08/2015 6:51:03 AM PST by Norm Lenhart (`)
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To: Finny; brothers4thID; American Constitutionalist; cripplecreek; FourPeas
I count this makes a total of three foundational principles that Mr. Trump is either 1) too disinterested to fully understand (best case scenario), or 2) has rejected the principle outright justified in the frame of mind of an autocratic CEO (dangerously extra-Constitutional for a POTUS).

1. Right to Privacy (Patriot Act and NSA domestic spying)
2. Freedom of Religion (barring one religion only from entry)
3. Freedom of Speech (selectively censoring undesirable speech)

Three strikes, Mr. Trump you're fired.

I want the man that will reclaim our U.S. Constitution in full, not one that will ignore the sections he views as obstacles to his agenda. Obama's extra-Constitutional lawlessness must be repudiated completely by the next President to preserve the Republic. It ends here and now or else the federal government, free of the constraints of the Constitution, will eventually evolve into an oppressive regime with complete control over the people.

154 posted on 12/08/2015 6:52:19 AM PST by Unmarked Package (Don't hope, instead KNOW you are supporting a PROVEN conservative. Ted Cruz 2016)
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To: Unmarked Package

Bingo.


155 posted on 12/08/2015 6:54:46 AM PST by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

it scares me that he is using blanket statements. I am all for shutting down communication of the jihad’s but the type of monitoring and shut down he seems to be proposing is the type you see china doing. the blanket statement of not allowing Muslims period into the united states and if they exit on vacation not allowing them back in scares me because the reasoning can be turned on yo any religious group you don’t like.

I cant stand the Muslim religion personally. I think it has more akin to Nazism. I think we are in a war against the religion and our current leader either does not understand it or is secretly supporting the other side because he is Muslim.

trump when he makes these statements Like outlawing Muslim movement through our borders is leaving it up to you how to interpret what he has said. This is a form populism that has More in common with the Populism Obama used in 2008 to get elected in my opinion

at this point I think we can do a lot better with Cruise then with trump. if you listen to Cruise he says most of whhat trump says but that 20 percent I don’t like is not being said.

I never said I wont vote for trump he just is not my top choice if he is the republican nomination I will vote for him because the alternatives are a Democrat Hillary, a politician who is incompetent and has shown her support goes to the highest bidder both foreign and domestic. Sanders a Socialist who will bankrupt our country because he has no understanding of economics.

of course I have never met a Democrat I thought was good for this country.


156 posted on 12/08/2015 7:05:38 AM PST by PCPOET7
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To: Unmarked Package
I want the man that will reclaim our U.S. Constitution in full, not one that will ignore the sections he views as obstacles to his agenda.

Exactly. Ignoring our Constitutional principles is what has brought us where we are. We don't find our way back by ignoring the Constitution.

157 posted on 12/08/2015 7:15:42 AM PST by FourPeas (Tone matters.)
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To: greedo

Or maybe they could show this video during the democrat national convention as an ad for Hillary

Trump In 2007:I Know Hillary Clinton “Very Well,” She’s “Very Talented”
http://youtu.be/-IFobhsXPd0

And maybe the first 50 seconds of the video here.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3195609/Rand-Paul-hits-Trump-new-video-showing-praising-Hillary-terrific-woman-saying-economy-does-better-Democrats.html#v-4417288103001


158 posted on 12/08/2015 7:19:55 AM PST by kygolfman
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To: UncleRicosFootball

Of course, all of this ignores the fact that if we close the “regular” net, all it will do is drive the traffic onto the darknet making it more difficult to track.

Censorship isn’t the answer. HUMINT is.


159 posted on 12/08/2015 7:25:13 AM PST by FourPeas (Tone matters.)
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To: kygolfman
or this one

Ted Cruz Will Renounce His Canadian Citizenship

160 posted on 12/08/2015 7:38:56 AM PST by greedo
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