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Trump attacks Ted Cruz for not supporting ethanol subsidies
The American Thinker ^ | December 12, 2015 | Ed Straker

Posted on 12/11/2015 11:57:00 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: editor-surveyor

Oooh is that right?

Tokyo Rove is telling us who he and Hillary fear.

“Karl Rove, who served as an adviser to former President George W. Bush, warned Republicans that nominating Donald Trump could be a death wish for the party. “ LoL.

Maybe a “death wish” for Karl’s cronyism.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3371791/posts


201 posted on 12/12/2015 12:12:06 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: VideoDoctor

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He’s still ahead, and garnered all the key endorsements.

The ethanol people are Democrats by a wide margin, which is why it is no surprise to see Donnie supporting it.

He’s a big Government and ultra-Globalist guy.


202 posted on 12/12/2015 12:13:33 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Red Steel

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Does truth or reality mean anything to you, or is your lover-boy the only object?


203 posted on 12/12/2015 12:15:08 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: VideoDoctor

I’ll take you at your word that Trump was not bashing Cruz, but merely pointing out a difference in their issue positions. And I certainly have no problem with candidates pointing out their primary opponents’ positions and past statements and votes.

But what we all should be aware of is that, once again, Donald Trump is trying to win the primary by taking a liberal position on an issue. Ethanol subsidies are the one thing that envirowackos, protectionists and big-government backers all support, and Trump once again “leads from behind” by taking a stance that he knows will be popular with his audience that particular day. Trump acts more like a politician than do the elected officials that he belittles as mere politicians.


204 posted on 12/12/2015 12:21:11 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: editor-surveyor

I think you’re the object these days in Dingbatville.


205 posted on 12/12/2015 12:21:25 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Fundamentally Fair
Well, at least you're honest about being a big government type.

Wake up! Everyone against ethanol is also going to have to go up against the special interest money and lobby groups that represent ALL the major car manufacturers.

DID YOU KNOW?

"No Surprise: E85 Is a Bummer in Fuel Economy"

Differences in acceleration times were insignificant (although GM says E85 improves horsepower by as much as three percent). On the downside, the fuel economy on E85 was diminished more than 30 percent in two of the three tests, about what we expected.

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With fewer than 600 stations selling E85 fuel in 37 states, why have GM, Ford, and DaimlerChrysler been cranking out these flex-fuel vehicles by the millions? The answer is the mandatory Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards. Federal law requires that the cars an automaker offers for sale average 27.5 mpg; light trucks must achieve 22.2 mpg. Failure to do so can result in substantial fines. However, relief is available to manufacturers that build E85 vehicles to encourage their production.

The irony here is that although E85 in fact gets poorer fuel economy than gasoline, for CAFE purposes, the government counts only the 15-percent gasoline content of E85. Not counting the ethanol, which is the other 85 percent, produces a seven-fold increase in E85 mpg. The official CAFE number for an E85 vehicle results from averaging the gas and the inflated E85 fuel-economy stats.

206 posted on 12/12/2015 12:23:12 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: VideoDoctor

That is correct. One ha to be both brave and a principled conservative to admit to Iowa voters that you do not support ethanol subsidies.


207 posted on 12/12/2015 12:24:07 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: Kickass Conservative; VideoDoctor

How many illegals are employed on Iowa corn (and other crop) fields?
Not sarcasm, just an honest question... I don’t know.
4L


208 posted on 12/12/2015 12:31:14 PM PST by 4Liberty (Prejudice and generalizations. That's how Collectivists roll......)
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To: 4Liberty

IOW, the ‘real’ cost of ethanol and Iowa crops to American taxpayers is the subsidies and the welfare checks.
The ‘jobs lost’ to Iowans are a 2nd issue, and it depends on if those unemployed — are ILLEGALS, OR NOT!!!!


209 posted on 12/12/2015 12:33:40 PM PST by 4Liberty (Prejudice and generalizations. That's how Collectivists roll......)
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To: editor-surveyor

The “GMO” corn is GMOed so it will grow in the desert and resist blight and pestilence.

I’m sure most sweet-corn varieties are also “genetically modified” just like most vegetables, dogs, cats, horses and meat animals. (Hereford, Angus, Yorkshire, Hampshire etc)

Naturally occurring “wild corn” isn’t much of a prize.


210 posted on 12/12/2015 12:36:29 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: 4Liberty
How many illegals are employed on Iowa corn (and other crop) fields?

I have NO idea.

Most of the corn is harvested via picking machines and combines. I doubt they are being overwhelmingly operated by Illegals.

211 posted on 12/12/2015 12:36:33 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: 4Liberty

There are almost no illegals involved in corn or ethanol production. It’s not due to any moral superiority, it’s because both operations are very high tech.

There are plenty of illegals in chicken, pork and beef production and processing. Ethanol plays some role because of the cheap high-protein feed available from the ethanol production process.


212 posted on 12/12/2015 12:38:23 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: VideoDoctor
Cruz is liable to go backward in his polling numbers with iowa voters if he persists.

Since this is the same position he had when he got those big poll numbers, how do you figure? He has been open about his position on this issue for a long time.

213 posted on 12/12/2015 12:38:49 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: mkjessup
Hey, you need to post a WARNING, put your drink down, and make sure you don't have any food in your mouth, other wise, you may drown or choke. YOU BEEN WARNED!

In case you can't tell I LOVE THIS PICTURE!!!! :-)

214 posted on 12/12/2015 12:40:22 PM PST by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's don't lie, they just Testily{ing} as taught in their respected Police Academy.)
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To: jjotto

thanks!


215 posted on 12/12/2015 12:40:28 PM PST by 4Liberty (Prejudice and generalizations. That's how Collectivists roll......)
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To: CA Conservative
Since this is the same position he had when he got those big poll numbers, how do you figure?

Because independent variables cause CONSTANT shifts in candidates numbers

That's what's astounding the press. Trump's numbers, no matter what he says, sway relatively little.

That is highly unusual in a world governed by independent variables.

Who won Iowa in 2012? Rick Santorum.

Rick Santorum finished the Iowa Republican caucuses 34 votes ahead of Mitt Romney.

Where did it take him once the "independent variables" kicked in?

216 posted on 12/12/2015 12:45:31 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Stanwood_Dave
Oops, sorry if I made you spit or snort food or drink there Dave, maybe I should post a warning first, lol

Feel free to steal that graphic and use it as you like!
217 posted on 12/12/2015 12:46:40 PM PST by mkjessup (Islam is the ENEMY of all civilized people. Obama is a Muslim. What's that tell ya?!?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It will be entertaining to see how Cruz answers it. Cruz has been consistently conservative, gracious and factual.


218 posted on 12/12/2015 12:51:24 PM PST by FourPeas (Tone matters.)
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To: VideoDoctor

To begin with, what does “all is going to stop” mean exactly to you?

If we can sort that out, I have a answer for you.


219 posted on 12/12/2015 1:42:11 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: editor-surveyor

Illogical: Fallacy of too few alternatives.


220 posted on 12/12/2015 1:52:44 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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