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Trump hits Scalia over comments on black students
WISN.COM ^ | 13 DECEMBER 2015 | CNN

Posted on 12/13/2015 7:26:48 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist

Donald Trump says Justice Antonin Scalia's comments about black students performing better in "slower-track" universities are "very tough" to African-Americans.

"I thought it was very tough to the African-American community, actually," Trump told CNN's Jake Tapper in an interview that aired Sunday on "State of the Union."

"I don't like what he said," Trump added. "No, I don't like what he said. I heard him, I was like, 'Let me read it again' because I actually saw it in print, and I'm going -- I read a lot of stuff -- and I'm going, 'Whoa!' "

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To: mrsmel

I agree. Start pandering and you lose support.


21 posted on 12/13/2015 7:50:32 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: mrsmel

He has never stopped. Some people just don’t want to admit he pandered to CONSERVATIVES lately as his lifetime positions are the opposite in many cases of his act today.

They want a hero and they will pretend, as they did with Romney, this guy is one of them.

Considering their and his records, they match so I guess he is.


22 posted on 12/13/2015 7:51:47 AM PST by Norm Lenhart (`)
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To: Tax-chick

Black students are consistently placed in academic programs above their level of preparation, with the result that their graduation rate is far lower than that of students admitted to the same programs without race preference.


Worse, when some black students see that they are going to fail out, they switch to “Black Studies” where they are indoctrinated into victimhood.


23 posted on 12/13/2015 7:54:10 AM PST by Mack the knife
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To: 9YearLurker; All

“Trump ain’t perfect, but I hope in this case his imperfection was in seeing what Scalia was getting at and not defending indefensible affirmative action policies that actually hurt black students.”

“Affirmative action” is simply racism against people who are not in the favored groups. It needs to be repealed and repudiated. It is directly against equal protection under the law.


24 posted on 12/13/2015 7:54:12 AM PST by marktwain
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To: ladyjane

You’re welcome. I wish more conservatives were aware of this research. There really is nothing further to be said about “affirmative action” in higher education: admission of underqualified students practically eliminates their possibility of earning a college degree.


25 posted on 12/13/2015 7:54:26 AM PST by Tax-chick (Maximizing my cultural appropriation.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

In related news, this just in:

“Black, Latino students speak up about problems in Boston schools
12/13/2015, 9:55:21 AM · by ConservativeStatement · 19 replies
Boston Globe ^ | December 12, 2015 | Astead W. Herndon
“What I am about to show you will make you mad,” Tung said. According to Tung’s report, just 22.1 percent of black males and 24.9 percent of Latino males in Boston scored proficient or higher on the English MCAS exams in elementary school, compared with 56.9 percent for white males and 48.5 percent for Asian males in the city.”


26 posted on 12/13/2015 7:58:50 AM PST by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: marktwain

Right, but in this case Scalia was addressing how AA actually hurts black students who are accepted at colleges that operate with a higher level of performance than the students will, for whatever reason, be able to meet.

That is the Thomas Sowell research I was referring to.


27 posted on 12/13/2015 7:59:07 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Mack the knife

The very existence of the whole array of “studies” programs is an immense swindle. Students in real academic disciplines can’t get the courses they need to graduate, while the universities spend a fortune on classes in competitive victimhood.


28 posted on 12/13/2015 8:00:08 AM PST by Tax-chick (Maximizing my cultural appropriation.)
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To: Tax-chick

To criticize me for asking that community service be a qualifier shows you don’t grasp that there are 5x the applicants as the seats.

Service to your community, likely gratis, shows something about your character, love of country.

Our Vets these days are in the service because they joined, teens who help at hospitals, nursing homes, libraries, are just like volunteer Firemen doing age appropriate jobs.

Someone has to decide on the merits who gets into the college. I say pick the person who cares, and gets their ass in gear when they see something in the community they can do that isn’t getting done.


29 posted on 12/13/2015 8:04:32 AM PST by Zenjitsuman (A)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

If you jump off the Trump bandwagon now, you can do it without anyone noticing. Wait to long and you will be complicit in his nomination.


30 posted on 12/13/2015 8:05:57 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: Zenjitsuman
Right, affirmative action is a mess and goes against our Founding Fathers’ original intent [once you isolate the Peculiar Exception].

I am glad that Trump is smart — it might help him catch up on how empirical Thomas Sowell’s research is.

Otherwise, if Trump causes this or allows this to spiral, I'm not kidding, we could see a bipartisan call for Scalia to resign.

31 posted on 12/13/2015 8:06:15 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The DNC 2012 Convention actually booed God three times)
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To: dinoparty

I might stay on the Trump bandwagon myself, but with eyes wide open.

We should always forgive people who later realize they made a mistake. This forum should not be so much about finger pointing at fellow posters as looking forward. Nor should we ever wed ourselves too much with any cult of personality.

What everyone in this forum should do is our very best to stand for Truth, God, a Strong USA, and lastly — humanism.


32 posted on 12/13/2015 8:10:59 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The DNC 2012 Convention actually booed God three times)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Both men are correct.

Trump said that it was a rough statement. And it was. Scalia stated the realities of how many black young people fare in college. It would have been helpful if BOTH of them had mentioned that the public schools, which evidently are immune from change, have put these young people in this sinking boat.


33 posted on 12/13/2015 8:11:10 AM PST by Dana1960
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

You can take Trump out of the Democrat Party, but you can’t take the Democrat out of Trump.


34 posted on 12/13/2015 8:13:11 AM PST by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: marktwain

“The truth is often tough.”

You got that right. In this case, Trump needs to consider where this leads. And so should Cruz.

Here is a chance for Cruz to prove himself.


35 posted on 12/13/2015 8:14:02 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The DNC 2012 Convention actually booed God three times)
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To: traderrob6
Another unforced error from the Donald....these may start catching up to him.

Thus are the pitfalls of operating on emotion rather than critical thought.

36 posted on 12/13/2015 8:16:00 AM PST by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: Dana1960

“Both men are correct. Trump said that it was a rough statement. And it was.”

I do hope Trump handles his next steps well regarding Scalia.


37 posted on 12/13/2015 8:16:03 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The DNC 2012 Convention actually booed God three times)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Exactly right!


38 posted on 12/13/2015 8:19:41 AM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Justice Scalia is largely correct.

I have a large number of Black students in the classes I teach at a local community college; and it is clear that, for whatever reason, the majority of them are not even prepared for that level of instruction.

The idea of attending lectures, staying current with reading assignments (let alone purchasing the textbook), writing using proper grammar and punctuation, and turning in their work on time is completely foreign to many of them.

But, then again, I’m probably looking at it from my “White Privilege” perspective.


39 posted on 12/13/2015 8:20:48 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

The press is having a field day distorting Scalia’s comments. The discussion before the court was about affirmative action, not the intelligence of black people in general. Scalia was basically making a common-sense argument that putting marginally qualified or unqualified students into elite institutions does them no favor, and that they would better off in lesser institutions more in keeping with their level of ability.


40 posted on 12/13/2015 8:24:52 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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