Posted on 12/15/2015 9:48:17 AM PST by pabianice
They don’t call them ‘Shakedown Cruises’ for nothing......................
I guess they built too much of Milwaukee into the ship.
damned Briggs and Stratton engine...
Exactly! That is why when sea trials are run, in critical areas on the ships. There may be as many or more civilian experts on board as sailors to monitor and evaluate every event, good, bad or in between.
There’s a reason it’s known as the “Little Crappy Ship” folks.
The people who serve aboard them want off!
I worked on the LCS for about 10 years. It was designed by an ever changing committee and built by the lowest bidders. Each payload was built by numerous companies and the software and hardware has to talk to the ship, the payloads, and the different Navy networks. One change by any of them can cause major problems. The system was supposed to cost under a million a copy, but the Navy kept adding more and more to the design and the contracts kept going over budget. They’re constantly changing the design as the ships are being built.
Kind of like the F-35?
As I understand it the propulsion system on the LCS is comprised of 2 gas turbines and 2 Colt- Peilstick diesel engines. I assume they are all connected to the Jaccuzi drives in some fashion. I wouldn’t think all of the prime movers would share the same lube oil system for no other reason than redundancy and reliability.
So I’m wondering which lube oil system has been affected here.
“Kinda like” any DoD program...when the program implodes under the weight of the ever burgeoning requirements, the DoD walks away from these programs smelling like roses while the contractors are left figuring out how to pick up the turd the services laid.
Yes, I wonder as well....
I have a plant maintenance background, am familiar with preventive maintenance routines and protocols..
I have seen a lot in my days, and metal shavings of either the fine goo, or the chips, in a engine/gearbox/lube system is never a good thing...But in some applications where you have clutches etc, it might be expected initially, so I just don’t know...
But I have found that sometimes the fix is as simple as a poor oil selection.
I wonder if anyone is considering sabatoge. All it takes is filings dropped into the filter line and panic will set in as everyone tries to explain how they got there. safety requires a shutdown until the cause is found.
True enough. I have extensive experience with steam turbines and the Colt PC series of diesel engines and proper oil selection is critical.
I don’t know how the prime movers are connected to the water jets. I would suspect the CT’s are geared to the jets so in that case the problem could be in the reduction gear lube oil assys but I can’t imagine them sharing a common lube oil system but maybe they do. That would explain a total failure of the propulsion system.
Perhaps you may wish to restate that........
Your explanation seems most reasonable. I too can't imagine the turbines or back-up propulsion system sharing lube oil because of the vastly different operating environments.
Somewhere, there is a common denominator and that appears to be something further downstream of the power plants.
It was supposed to cost $800,000 per copy when it was initially designed about 20 years ago. It was up to 1.4 million per copy when I left the program. That’s the ship alone without any payload.
"Our Friends the Saudis" are buying these ships with upgraded weapons, including wide area air defense
Oops. I stand corrected. The cost was originally 100 million per copy, not 1 million. It’s now up to over 435 million.
LOL,
Oh,man . Don’t even go there!
Briggs and Fri**in’ Stratton.....AHHHH!!!!!
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