Posted on 12/22/2015 4:10:09 AM PST by VinL
“Oh sure, his record on positions is first rate, but his record of accomplishments is quite another matter.”
Uhh, well, what was he supposed to “accomplish” with the entire GOPe in the Senate allied against him and determined to NOT allow any conservative initiatives to succeed? So, what would you have wanted him to do? Just sit back and shut up like all the other GOP senators?
OK, I feel better now. 8-)
Hmmmm remove Quinnipiac, and NBC, being sued by Trump, what do the others say?
You wrote:
“Internals: 64% Trump supporters say mind is made up, 63% of Cruz supporters say they can change their minds.”
I was wondering where those stats came from. Because I certainly don’t believe that Cruz supporters are so noncommittal.
Nope. They are going to vote for Cruz but not Trump. That’s why Trump is getting clobbered by Hilary even while Cruz is even with Hilary.
Cruz is a social and constitutional conservative. Trump is neither.
If Trump is not the nominee, then millions of people like me will stay home and not vote.
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Then you would be a fool, my FRiend, lacking all discernment. And there would NOT be millions like you if Cruz were the nominee instead of Trump IMHO.
Well, as you know, I don’t credit any of the current polling. I actually think the “embarrassment” question imputes a bias with Q.
For me, the positives are that (1) Rubio and Gop-e attacks on immigration failed; Cruz was prohibitively perceived as the debate winner (again vis a vis Rubio); and that the result will carry the news for a while. Trump is nationally known- Cruz is still getting there. This poll will help his national credibility.
As for the solid question, there’s no doubt that Trump has a solid base of 15-18%.
Um, no. It isn't.
My question is not addressed.
Were you thinking I wouldn't check any purported "answers?"
Great idea!!
Cruz is weal on immigration and just now is calling for a wall. He is on the Cheap-Labor-Express.
Trump crazies: Every poll that has Trump getting beat by anyone else is either biased, fraudulent, they hate Trump or The poll plain sucks.
Meanwhile, polls from.exactly the same outfit which has Trump leading are oh very good polls. Chuckle!
You guys are going to need major therapy when Cruz clobbered Trump.
Will Cruz round up these refugees and send them back? Immigration is the only issue I care about - secure the border and deport all illegals including their kids and families. Until that happens, nothing else matters.
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I don’t think so. Fact is, Cruz had little success building a coalition to get anything done. The reason Cruz’s cadidacy is showing strength right now that Cruz is hiding behind Trump, letting Trump take all the heat. Most would call that a free ride. He won’t get one in the general and that is when his candidacy will crumble. If the situation was reversed and Cruz was the one leading the charge on Immigration and the Muslim ban, Ted would be in real trouble, in my opinion.
I have no problem with Cruz, he is just being used as an object to slam Trump. Cruz is my 2nd choice, and I hope Trump has him as VP or A G
Excuse me. My mistake.
I assumed most any FReeper would be smart enough to distinguish between personal and public policy accomplishments, given the context, without having such an obvious delineation specifically mentioned.
Sadly, I was wrong.
“Republicans didn’t have anything going for them with respect to Latinos and with respect to Asians,†the billionaire developer says.
“The Democrats didn’t have a policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, but what they did have going for them is they weren’t mean-spirited about it,†Trump says. “They didn’t know what the policy was, but what they were is they were kind.â€â€¦
“He had a crazy policy of self deportation which was maniacal,†Trump says. “It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote,†Trump notes. “He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country.â€
Self-deportation is mean-spirited and maniacal because it offends people who are inspired by the idea of migration to America? That does sound like something an amnesty fan would say. What about Trump’s alleged support of the DREAM Act? There’s evidence of that too, although it comes from DREAMers themselves. Here’s their account of a meeting with Trump in 2013:
But he also kept asking, “Can’t you just become a citizen if you want to?†No, we can’t, the activists said, there’s no process for that. Trump was reflective, the activists said…
Trump said he knew the work of undocumented people is what makes his golf courses and hotels great.
“At the end of the day, what we’re looking at is a value proposition for America,†Tijerino said to Trump at the end of the meeting, referring to immigration legislation.
“You’ve convinced me,†Trump said to the delight of the activists in the room.
“We all smiled at each other and said, ‘Wow, we did it, we got this guy to change his mind,’†Pacheco said.
hotair.com/archives/2015/11/04/rubio-trump-used-to-support-amnesty-and-the-dream-act-before-running-for-president-you-know
First, while I think the polls are pretty accurate for primaries, I take anything in the general election with a grain of salt. Once there is a candidate established, generally the base solidifies.
Second, if you’re gonna play that game, in poll after poll CARSON does better against Hillary than anyone . . . so we should nominate him, right? Sorry. Try again.
But that is the clarion call from Trump supporters...
Only he can beat the media
Only he can beat Hillary
Only he can pull Dems
Only he can get blue collar workers
he can get 25% African American voters
And in poll after poll that is not supported.
So my opinion is just as good as Trump supporters if you don’t have any numbers to back it up...
Trump can’t win because his negatives and favorables are so bad.
See how that works.
Tell it to the Cruz supporters! They are trying to disqualify Trump, while most conservative Trump supporters just don't think Cruz, or the ground, is ready for him yet!
They are making enemies out of friends due to impatience.
Change the game...
Like Trump has....
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