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Nato dispatches Awacs planes and troops to protect Turkish airspace over Russia spat
International Business Times ^ | December 27, 2015 | Vasudevan Sridharan

Posted on 12/27/2015 9:57:34 AM PST by Navy Patriot

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To: Sacajaweau

Too bad more people don’t realize that.


21 posted on 12/27/2015 10:40:00 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: OpusatFR
Isn't Turkey putting ISIS oil on the market? Aren't they supplying arms and sanctuary to those vicious, murderous junkies? Didn't Kerry make a deal with Putin to leave Assad in power?

Yes, Yes, and Yes.

... is this a deal NATO made with Turkey?

Yes.

They will stop the Islamic migration from their shores to Europe, if we threaten Russia with our presence.

NO.

When has NATO NOT advanced the cause of Islam?

Serbia?

Kosovo?

Albania?

Georgia?

South Ossetia?

Macedonia?

Greece?

Armenia?

Ukraine?

Crimea?

Donbass?

22 posted on 12/27/2015 10:40:13 AM PST by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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To: Sacajaweau

Turkey fought on the side of Germany in WWI and WWII.

Turkey has never had a “secular” government. That was lefty/muslim propaganda.


23 posted on 12/27/2015 10:41:07 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: Navy Patriot

In other news, President Kennedy has sent military advisers to South Vietnam to help the freedom loving people of that great nation.


24 posted on 12/27/2015 10:41:56 AM PST by Glad2bnuts (Go Cruz GO, scare the RINO's to death)
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To: Glad2bnuts
In other news, President Kennedy has sent military advisers to South Vietnam to help the freedom loving people of that great nation.

And the American Soviet Communist DemoRats that rule America today, and order NATO deployments, assassinated him for it.

25 posted on 12/27/2015 10:46:29 AM PST by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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To: PIF
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26 posted on 12/27/2015 10:57:54 AM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: McGruff

You read my mind but beat me to the post. What has Turkey done for NATO? They are sabatoging the war against ISIS.


27 posted on 12/27/2015 10:59:31 AM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Navy Patriot

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28 posted on 12/27/2015 11:00:41 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Sacajaweau; Navy Patriot
"Turkey is not our friend"

Turkey is an enemy of the American people, and all of Western Civilization.

29 posted on 12/27/2015 11:01:04 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: OpusatFR
"They will stop the Islamic migration from their shores to Europe, if we threaten Russia with our presence"

That's only part of the deal.

Turkey also gets $5bil cash and a free hand to meddle in any way they choose in Iraq and Syria.

And they get to cleanse Turkey of Kurds.

30 posted on 12/27/2015 11:05:10 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Begins? It never ended....


31 posted on 12/27/2015 1:37:12 PM PST by Kozak (ALLAH AKBAR = HEIL HITLER)
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To: Navy Patriot

It’s also possible that this is being done simply to referee the he-said/she-said BS between Turkey and Russia: neither one is particularly credible. Not to mention, now that someone is looking that knows what they are actually looking at, probably neither side will be playing these kinds of games again.


32 posted on 12/27/2015 1:54:25 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: MarvinStinson

WWI, they were neutral in WWII till a few months before the end, when they generously came on our side.


33 posted on 12/27/2015 3:34:49 PM PST by SJackson (What I’m watching in him (O), is uncertainty...a leader doesn’t give sh*t...he gets it don)
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34 posted on 12/27/2015 3:38:20 PM PST by SJackson (What I’m watching in him (O), is uncertainty...a leader doesn’t give sh*t...he gets it don)
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To: phormer phrog phlyer

With John Kerry(who served in Viet Nam) as secretary of state and Samatha Power as UN Ambassador, what could possibly go wrong?


35 posted on 12/27/2015 4:09:28 PM PST by CPT Clay (Hillary: Julius and Ethal Rosenberg were electrocuted for selling classified info.)
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To: SJackson

What a stupid thing to do. Obama is determined to get us in a shooting war with Russia.


36 posted on 12/27/2015 4:16:44 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There's a right to gay marriage in the Constitution but there is no right of an unborn baby to life.)
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To: CPT Clay
Sometimes I think some kneecapping is required in academia.

Susan Rice and Valerie Jarrett.

For a start

37 posted on 12/27/2015 4:39:39 PM PST by SJackson (What I’m watching in him (O), is uncertainty...a leader doesn’t give sh*t...he gets it don)
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To: SJackson

You ever hear of the Armenian genocide?

The Germans helped Turkey do it in WWI.


38 posted on 12/27/2015 5:45:24 PM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: SJackson

The Ottoman–German Alliance was an alliance between the German Empire and the Ottoman Empire that was ratified on August 2, 1914, shortly following the outbreak of World War I. The alliance was created as part of a joint-cooperative effort that would strengthen and modernize the failing Ottoman military, as well as provide Germany safe passage into neighboring British colonies.

Germany needed the Ottoman Empire on its side. The Orient Express had run directly to Constantinople since 1889, and prior to the First World War the Sultan had consented to a plan to extend it through Anatolia to Baghdad under German auspices. This would strengthen the Ottoman Empire’s link with industrialised Europe, while also giving Germany easier access to its African colonies and to trade markets in India.

A secret treaty was concluded between the Ottoman Empire and the German Empire on August 2, 1914. The Ottoman Empire was to enter the war on the side of the Central Powers one day after the German Empire declared war on Russia.[1] The alliance was ratified on 2 August by many high ranking Ottoman officials, including Grand Vizier Said Halim Pasha, the Minister of War Enver Pasha, the Interior Minister Talat Pasha, and Head of Parliament Halil Bey.

However, there was no signature from the House of Osman as the Sultan Mehmed V did not sign it. According to the Constitution, the Sultan was the Commander-in-Chief of the Army, and this made the legitimacy of the Alliance questionable. This meant that the army was not able to fight on behalf of the Sultan. The Sultan himself had wanted the Empire to remain neutral. He did not wish to command a war himself and as such left the Cabinet to do much of his bidding. The third member of the cabinet of the Three Pashas Djemal Pasha also did not sign the treaty as he had tried to form an alliance with France. Not all parts of the Ottoman government accepted the Alliance.

Austria-Hungary adhered to the Ottoman–German treaty on 5 August.[2] The Ottoman Empire did not enter the war until the Ottoman Navy bombarded Russian ports on the 29 October 1914.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman%E2%80%93German_alliance


39 posted on 12/27/2015 5:56:03 PM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: SJackson

The Treaty of Alliance Between Germany and Turkey

WWI Document Archive > Official Papers >

The Treaty of Alliance Between Germany and Turkey

On August 2,1914, Germany and Turkey signed the following secret treaty, meant to go into effect in the event of war between Germany and Russia.

Russia declared war on Turkey on November 3, 1914, and on November 5, 1914, Great Britain and France also declared against Turkey.

Constantinople, August 2, 1914

1. The two contracting parties agree to observe strict neutrality in regard to the present conflict between Austria-Hungary and Serbia.

2. In case Russia should intervene with active military measures, and should thus bring about a casus foederis for Germany with relation to Austria-Hungary, this casus foederis would also come into existence for Turkey.

3. In case of war, Germany will leave her military mission at the disposal of Turkey. The latter, for her part, assures the said military mission an effective influence on the general conduct of the army, in accordance with the understanding arrived at directly between His Excellency the Minister of War and His Excellency the Chief of the Military Mission.

4. Germany obligates herself, if necessary by force of arms ... [ cipher group lacking] Ottoman territory in case it should be threatened.

5. This agreement which has been concluded for the purpose of protecting both Empires from international complications which may result from the present conflict goes into force as soon as it is signed by the above-mentioned plenipotentiaries, and shall remain valid, together with any similar mutual agreements, until December 31, 1918.

6. In case it shall not be denounced by one of the high contracting parties six months before the expiration of the term named above, this treaty shall remain in force for a further period of five years.

7. This present document shall be ratified by His Majesty the German Emperor, King of Prussia, and by His Majesty the Emperor of the Ottomans, and the ratifications shall be exchanged within a period of one month from the date of its signing.

8. The present treaty shall remain secret and can only be made public as a result of an agreement arrived at between the two high contracting parties. In testimony whereof, etc.

BARON v. WANGENHEIM

SAID HALIM

(With regard to 3: The Turks wished to use this phraseology in view of the fact that His Majesty the Sultan is the Commander-in-Chief of the Turkish army. General Liman, however, had officially informed me in advance that he had arranged a detailed agreement with the Minister of War Enver which provided the Military Mission with the actual chief command — as required by your telegram 275....)

http://wwi.lib.byu.edu/index.php/The_Treaty_of_Alliance_Between_Germany_and_Turkey


40 posted on 12/27/2015 5:58:21 PM PST by MarvinStinson
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