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‘Making A Murderer’: 5 fascinating theories about what REALLY happened
Fusion ^ | 12/31/15 | Dodai Stewart

Posted on 12/31/2015 1:45:31 PM PST by 5150 FREEPER

If you’ve watched all ten episodes of the Netflix documentary series Making A Murderer, you’re most likely left with more questions than answers. For starters: What really happened? The filmmakers present the story of Steven Avery, a man falsely accused of sexual assault and attempted murder, who was convicted and imprisoned, then exonerated, only to be charged decades later with murdering a photographer named Teresa Halbach. It’s a complicated, harrowing, frustrating narrative, and it’s sparked a lot of speculation.

Warning: If you haven’t watched the series, this post isn’t for you; it requires some knowledge of the show, and spoilers abound.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: makingamurderer; stevenavery; wisconsin
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Spoiler: the butler did it!
1 posted on 12/31/2015 1:45:31 PM PST by 5150 FREEPER
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To: 5150 FREEPER

This is a travesty! This Avery character is guilty. One of our local talk hosts is a lawyer and covered the trial. He explained at length the evidence is ironclad. Only whacked out liberals would try to spring a murderer like this.


2 posted on 12/31/2015 2:02:26 PM PST by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: 5150 FREEPER

I thought it one of the best programs ever made. Should be required viewing for all lawyers, law students and law enforcement.


3 posted on 12/31/2015 2:10:02 PM PST by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: 5150 FREEPER

http://www.pajiba.com/netflix_movies_and_tv/is-steven-avery-guilty-evidence-making-a-murderer-didnt-present.php


4 posted on 12/31/2015 2:17:12 PM PST by proust (Texan for Trump!)
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To: sgtyork

That’s the great thing about making you’re own documentary, you can leave out damning details to help you’re point of view.


5 posted on 12/31/2015 2:45:21 PM PST by MNlurker
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To: 5150 FREEPER

This is circumstantial??!!???!!

— The bullet with Halbach’s DNA on it came from Avery’s gun, which always hung above his bed.

— Avery had purchased handcuffs and leg irons like the ones Dassey described holding Halbach only three weeks before (Avery said he’s purchased them for use with his girlfriend, Jodi, with whom he’d had a tumultuous relationship — at one point, he was ordered by police to stay away from her for three days).


6 posted on 12/31/2015 2:48:40 PM PST by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: proust

That was a good analysis. I thought he probably was guilty, but the cops sure looked just as guilty. There was enough doubt for not convicting him though. The whole thing with the kid being interrogated left a bad taste in my mouth, and as far as his defense attorney, I would have punched him in the face down the stairs as soon as I met him. The boyfriend of the killed girl was a suspect to me. He just happened to lead a search party near the forty acre private property, how’s that work. The car was discovered within 30 minutes in the 40 acre junk yard with hundreds of cars, seems to be a bit more than luck to me.


7 posted on 12/31/2015 2:51:02 PM PST by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: sgtyork

I watched the entire series. He was framed. No doubt about it. He had no motive. Way too many questions to convict.

How is it possible that only after the eighth search of rhe trailer did the Malawi detective, who wasn’t supposed to be involved in the case to begin with, find the key fob with a nylon strap have only Avery’s DNA laying in plain site? That’s impossible.

How is it that the same detective found a bullet in plain site in about the easiest garage ever after several searches and allegedly only non-blood DNA from the victim. And how could anyone possibly shoot a victim several times in the garage and leave no blood or other DNA evidence? They even dug up the cracked concrete floor. There was no evidence she was ever even in the garage.

And if the victim was raped in his bedroom, how was it possible there was no evidence she was ever in the house?

As for her bones being in the fire pit, why was every procedure foe excavating burnt remains violated? I’ll tell you why. Her remains were burned somewhere else and moved there.

The family owned a salvage yard and if he did it, he would have crushed the car and disposed of it. The blood in the car was planted. Don you really think anyone could not possibly have seen the smear right by the ignition switch?

He had a girlfriend he truly loved and was about to start a trial which would have paid him multiple millions of dollars. Members of the Mattawoc sheriff’s department and the County would have been liable. Don’t know who murdered the woman, but there was no real evidence Avery did it.


8 posted on 12/31/2015 2:53:46 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: sgtyork

Could cite a source for your statements regarding the gun and bullet, the cuffs and leg irons,and why there was none of her DNA found in either the trailer or garage aside from non-blood DNA on a bullet that was found by the detective will an obvious motive to frame him only after several other serches?


9 posted on 12/31/2015 3:00:05 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: SeaHawkFan

You’re falling for the magic of lefty propaganda. Lets continue to discredit the legal system every day.

Our local talk radio host LAWYER was there during the entire trial and got to know the film makers. They had financial motive to make an exoneration film, it was clear that was the goal from the first day. He said the case was concrete, and the defense was unable to refute any of the evidence. All they did was say ‘the cops did it’.

No real evidence? The evidence was ironclad, DNA on the bullets from Avery’s gun.

Blood planted? Sure.


10 posted on 12/31/2015 3:06:18 PM PST by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: stylecouncilor

Ping


11 posted on 12/31/2015 3:09:29 PM PST by onedoug
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To: SeaHawkFan

I’m citing this....

— The bullet with Halbach’s DNA on it came from Avery’s gun, which always hung above his bed.

Which come from the link in post 4 and it was also stated in the radio analysis of Dan O’Donnell who covered the trial.

http://www.newstalk1130.com/onair/common-sense-central-37717/


12 posted on 12/31/2015 3:12:41 PM PST by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: 5150 FREEPER
Remember that the documentary, though seemingly even-handed, was certainly biased in favor of Avery and Brendan. Nobody could explain how the Toyota got parked on Avery's land or how his blood got on the ignition switch. Yeah, the defense tried, and, by my reckoning, certainly established reasonable doubt.

But we only got selected clips from the trial itself, and only the evidence the filmmakers wanted us to see. The jury saw it all.

I don't know how they could have arrived at "guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt," but they did.

I think there's a lot more to the Avery story than we were shown in that documentary.

13 posted on 12/31/2015 3:25:52 PM PST by IronJack
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To: SeaHawkFan

With you on this.

What about the vial of Avery’s blood in evidence which was broken into and violated with a needle ?

8 days for the cops of the town who weren’t supposed to be there investigating ? And the Avery’s not allowed on the property?

These people are the dregs of society to normal middle class people, we have them in my town ‘pink eye village’ - they intermarry and most have lower IQs ... but all are labeled and treated differently in school... I’ve seen it for years. Easy to railroad.


14 posted on 12/31/2015 4:08:28 PM PST by american colleen
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To: 5150 FREEPER

What a great series...just finished it yesterday. Absolute travesty of justice.


15 posted on 12/31/2015 4:13:31 PM PST by DouglasKC (I'm pro-choice when it comes to lion killing....)
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To: american colleen

Being poor and having to use public defenders doesn’t help either.


16 posted on 12/31/2015 4:16:02 PM PST by proust (Texan for Trump!)
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To: IronJack

No jury in America is asked to convict beyond a shadow of a doubt. Reasonable doubt is the standard.


17 posted on 12/31/2015 4:26:26 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: 5150 FREEPER
My theory: The Coburn cop found the body in the Rav 4 somewhere besides the property. We know he found the RAV 4 from his telephone call. He called Lenk and the sheriff. They said "Oh must have been Avery that killed her". They took the body to the quarry in the back of the Rav 4, cut it up, burned it, took the RAV 4 back to AVery's, covered it up, took the burned bones, dumped some in he burn pile and some in the burn barrel.

I suspect that either the ex-boyfriend or Brendans brother killed her. Moreso the boyfriend because wow they were really quick to go full bore on the missing person thing and very specific about searching so close to Avery's.

18 posted on 12/31/2015 4:42:29 PM PST by DouglasKC (I'm pro-choice when it comes to lion killing....)
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To: 5150 FREEPER

Here’s my take, between watching this show and what I have read about all the Wisconsin “john Doe” injustices, I know that I will never set foot in that state. My God!


19 posted on 12/31/2015 5:26:29 PM PST by Ace the Biker (I wasn't born in Texas but I got here as fast as I could.)
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To: proust

Well I watched the entire series and am still uncertain:

On one hand, Avery and his nephew do seem shady if not stupid enough to have been so brazen as to rape, murder and then burn a woman who others knew she would be there, leave her car on their property, have a fire pit in plain view, etc.

On the other hand that the car as well the body were not placed in the crusher and buried under tons of scrap, the whole key not being there and then being there and the blood as well the evidence box tampering beckons explaining by the police.

The series was well done, may have had an agenda, but left more questions unanswered than answered: we may never know.


20 posted on 12/31/2015 6:34:00 PM PST by 5150 FREEPER
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