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Ted Cruz, Glenn Beck, and Cult-Like Religion
Freeper Editorial | 1/03/2015 | GPH

Posted on 01/03/2016 5:07:32 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans

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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

I’m a very hard core Trump supporter because I think he will get the job done on the most important issues...border and economy. While this story does make me question Cruz even more than I did before, I would still vote for Cruz if he was the nominee.

To me, Cruz’s behaviors on corker, TPP and gang of 8 are far more disturbing. However, I think we all need to realize we will not get perfection in either candidate, and we should vote for whoever will move the country furthest toward freedom.


381 posted on 01/03/2016 9:29:09 AM PST by bigtoona (Lose on amnesty, socialism cemented in place forever! Trump is the only hope.)
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To: Jane Long

You’re welcome. I agree with your comments as well.


382 posted on 01/03/2016 9:29:12 AM PST by DoughtyOne ((It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.))
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To: Mr Rogers
The US Constitution was written by lawyers, who most certainly DID know what they meant:

Would the Founders recognize the Republic as they established it or would they be appalled at what they found if they were able to see it today?

383 posted on 01/03/2016 9:30:31 AM PST by itsahoot (Anyone receiving a Woo! Woo! for President has never won anything after the award.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I have yet to me an anti-Trump person with the foggiest *accurate* understanding of why he is supported by So many conservatives.

Disclosure: I don’t have time to spell it all out today. I’ve done so scores of times in the past, however; it’s all in my posting history.


384 posted on 01/03/2016 9:31:05 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: SmokingJoe
TPA is the problem, just like the Corker bill is a problem. This is typical political slight of hand that allows the for-it-before-against-it goings on in DC. Once you allow something to the floor - or in this case giving Obama authority - everything else is moot.

Cruz voted to give Obama fast track authority (this is doubly shocking in itself). If he were really against the corporate giveaway he would have voted against TPA.

The question is why some of you are running cover on these issues when you know better. Does religiosity over shadow knifing Israel in the back (Corker bill) and selling the American worker down the drain (TPA)?

385 posted on 01/03/2016 9:33:29 AM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: TornadoAlley3

It certainly came across as a rhetorical snark designed to make Cruz appear weak on illegal immigration.

If that wasn’t the intention, my bad.


386 posted on 01/03/2016 9:35:14 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: Oklahoma

Now that makes a lot more sense to me than sitting out an election like a pouty kid because your first choice didn’t make the cut. In my estimation, a vote not cast is one for your worst nightmare. I was taught that my vote is precious because it’s mine, and NOT casting it is a slap in the face to the people who have died giving me the right to cast it any way I choose.


387 posted on 01/03/2016 9:35:37 AM PST by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: Fantasywriter

I understand completely why people in general support him. I personally agree with him on a number of issues. But he’s not a conservative. And he has important issues he is liberal as hell on.

But a conservative has an option far more in tune with the conservative philosophy. So if a person goes with Trump over that option, they have chosen moderation/to be a moderate.

Thats their choice. But it is not conservative by any historical definition and they do not get to rewrite the definition to make themselves feel better. We should all stop pretending and playing games with this. If you (people in general) are moderate, then embrace it and say so. If people would do that we could avoid a lot of fighting. But as Lincoln said, “How many legs does a dog have if you call a tail a leg? He has four because calling a tail a leg doesn’t make it one”.


388 posted on 01/03/2016 9:37:33 AM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - An idea whose time has come)
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To: C. Edmund Wright; nclaurel; mrsmith
Not only where the Publius authors known, but we were talking about a non free government.

First, lets dispense with the false notion that the identities of Publius were known to the readers of the NY papers the Federalist Essays published in...at the time they weren't.

But I am really interested in your assertion that the United States had a non-free government in 1787 with the underlying suggestion that the reason Madison, Hamilton and others used psydonyms was the fear of government oppression.

That's quite a novel interpretation of American history and doesn't quite explain why Publius in Federalist 84 argues against the Bill of Rights...does it?

389 posted on 01/03/2016 9:39:54 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Norm Lenhart

‘But a conservative has an option far more in tune with the conservative philosophy. So if a person goes with Trump over that option, they have chosen moderation/to be a moderate.’

You do not understand. Not at all. You just proved my point. There is not a single anti-Trump person in the world who can accurately articulate why conservatives support Trump. Not one.


390 posted on 01/03/2016 9:41:50 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

What a bunch of nonsense

The country is lost and you want to blather in because you religiously disagree with Beck amd Teds dad.

Get over your selg


391 posted on 01/03/2016 9:43:03 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Fantasywriter

No you are missing the point. Conservatives DON’T support trump. Moderates do.


392 posted on 01/03/2016 9:43:11 AM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - An idea whose time has come)
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To: Norm Lenhart

If you could accurately articulate why conservatives support Trump, you would understand that you just made a false statement.


393 posted on 01/03/2016 9:45:10 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Impossible since conservatives don’t support Trump. Actions are what they are. Word games don’t change that. People can claim to be conservative and support Trump till the cows come home. Supporting a moderate over a more conservative action is by definition a moderate action.


394 posted on 01/03/2016 9:48:01 AM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - An idea whose time has come)
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To: Theo
You understand that “the full armour of God” is a phrase in the Bible, right?

Yeah, it's in the book of Hezekiah somewhere, right?

395 posted on 01/03/2016 9:48:43 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (Aeterna Aduersus Tyrannos)
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To: Norm Lenhart

And btw, if you can’t accurately articulate why conservatives support Trump, you have no platform from which to pontificate. It would be like a person with no concept of the underlying purpose of the Second Amendment telling people why they own guns. Gun owners are not going to listen to that person.


396 posted on 01/03/2016 9:48:49 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Your entire argument comes down to category error.


397 posted on 01/03/2016 9:49:51 AM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - An idea whose time has come)
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To: Fantasywriter

If the shoddiness of my previous post wasn’t indicative of the sarcasm with which it was posted in order to point out the relative absurdity of poorly connected ad hominem attacks such as that of Greetingspunyhumans then I apologize for your sense of outrage. Remember, WWJM?


398 posted on 01/03/2016 9:50:00 AM PST by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I think the worry is more that Ted Cruz would be a convenient vehicle for Dominionists. He wouldn’t have to be one himself.

Personally, I don’t think he is and I don’t think he really surrounds himself with them.

BUT.

If it turned out he did, then watch out.


399 posted on 01/03/2016 9:50:23 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (Aeterna Aduersus Tyrannos)
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To: Norm Lenhart

‘Supporting a moderate over a more conservative action is by definition a moderate action.’

Spoken like a person without an earthly clue as to why conservatives support Trump.


400 posted on 01/03/2016 9:50:35 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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