Posted on 01/03/2016 5:07:32 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans
I am a Trump supporter and both Christian and conservative. I will not stifle my opinions however, to avoid hurting your feelings. I believe Cruz to be dishonest and know that he is not a NBC. Because of that, I am a troll?
The perception of him is scary far right radical. Sad again, but true.
Chuckle!
You were obviously asleep during the 2007/2008 and 2011/2012 election cycles.
Hanging said that, Trumpbots are every bit as nasty, virulent, vicious and creepy as the Ron Paul bots in the least two election cycles if not much worse.
“A conservative will support a conservative”
Oh I get it now.
The rhetoric is not based on what the candidate’s positions are and their campaign performance. And as most here have stated, they are either Trump supporters or are Cruz people that are ok either way, but it’s now a matter of the high masters declaring candidate A to be the one you will be forced to back because he is the designated conservative, and you are ideologically REQUIRED to back him even though you have legitimate misgivings about aspects of his candidacy.
Shut up and vote as I say!
You Cruz people are playing a dangerous game with this. Conservatism is NOT a totalitarian philosophy and you will not demand nor shame the people here into voting for whom you demand.
Bye
You are a troll because of your posting history on Ted Cruz threads which is long, extensive and usually full of lies. I have had cause to engage you in plenty of fights for that very reason.
They will sure try though! Reminds me of how racist was thrown around by the dems if you didn’t worship the Won in the last election.
I am a Trump supporter, I am Christian and I am conservative. I also donate (what I can) monthly to FR. Insulting Trump supporters 24/7 is not doing your guy any favors. More I get insulted by his supporters the less likely I am to support him should he be the nominee. Yeah I vote for him in the general but keep on insulting me at that about all I'll do.
Perhaps the most damaging aspect of the article is that it relies entirely on guilt by association. Peruse the entire article and ask yourself, where does Ted Cruz endorse the idea that Christians must conquer the seven domains of society or else Jesus won’t come back?
Not. One. Place.
The “hit” in this hit piece is what propagandists and advertisers call “transfer.” Take something you know people hate at a gut level, and associate it with the subject for which you wish to generate hatred. After a certain quantity of this associative technique is used, eventually folks become programmed to automatically transfer their hatred for the one thing to the subject of interest. It is an ugly tactic that relies on human emotional behavior rather than appealing to our better, rational selves.
As for Ted Cruz, he is a Southern Baptist, and so his eschatology is much more likely to be standard premillenarian belief, not “kingdom now” theocracy. His dad, even if he were a classic dominionist, falls well short of the dominionism I have right next door to me. Having spent many years as a Southern Baptist, I can tell you these folks next door are really not compatible with Southern Baptist theology or practice, and would never make it past the membership class if they were open in what they believed. Are there infiltrators? Sure. I would expect that. But the two cannot openly coexist. Eschatologically, they are opposites. Dominionism, had it reared it’s head in my old SBC church in Indiana, would be tarred and feathered by the elders as an evil variation on some liberal version of postmillennialism (which may be a fair analysis).
So trying to push the idea that dominionisn is not a denomination, while technically true, is misleading, as those denominations that have traditional premillenarian eschatology will not provide a welcome environment for dominionism.
As for Beth Moore, she has moved on and is no longer at First Baptist of Houston. I have attempted to contact the church there and discover the whys and wherefores of that departure. I suspect it is because she was indeed becoming too controversial in some of her views, and was no longer welcome there. Yet, having read some of her posts on the matter, she has clearly attempted to show she hold the Scriptures in higher regard than her own “revelations.” My own pastor believes God speaks to him, and needs to have such conversation with God to be an effective leader of the flock. So some of this is murky.
For example, she has been accused of promoting “new age” practices. One can make an argument that is the case, IF she in fact promotes something like “contemplative prayer,” which is all the rage right now, and it does indeed turn prayer into a self-hypnosis, mantra-repetitive experience designed to alter consciousness. I know something of this from personal experience, as it was something I was into before I was converted. It is a gross error getting too great a foothold in the church.
However, if one wants to be fair, “contemplative prayer” is showing up all over the place, not excluding once-austere organizations such as Donald Trump’s wildly liberal Presbyterian denomination, the PCUSA.
Now, please don’t misunderstand. Just because The Donald goes to that church, I do not assume he is OK with “new age” contemplative prayer, or that he share’s his denominations’ willingness to endorse gay marriage, or their efforts to boycott Israel into economic submission to their enemies. No, I would never use a propaganda technique like Tranfer to try and take The Donald down. I prefer taking him down for the things that have actually come out of his own mouth and are a matter if the public record. Because I’m rather hesitant to violate the ninth commandment and bear false witness against my neighbor. But if they give their own testimony, like saying Kelo is good, or we just gotta live with gay marriage because its the law of the land now, or that hate crime legislation to protect gays is a good thing (even though it’s basically adding punishment for thought crimes), then that open testimony is fair game.
Just sayin ...
Peace,
SR
Just because I didn’t respond like I am now in this national election, doesn’t mean I didn’t donate or support this site...
I didn’t respond to those national elections because I didn’t support the Republican candidates, they both were RINO’s and now that Trump has come out and supports my views, I’m here and I’m supporting him....
But heaven help us all if we say anything about Trump, we get called ‘nazies’ ‘zots’ and some of you even come on our Trump rally sites and comment about Trump, why do you do that? Does it make you feel your going to change our minds? It isn’t but keep going on....
Whats to get? Is there some devoted Trump follower thing that throws simple logic out the door? Is it some radical notion that conservatives support conservatives? What is remotely hard to understand there? Did you have to check reason at the door when you joined the cause because I doubt very much Trump required that Jim Jones style devotion. Thats all on you guys.
If you hate baseball are you a fan? If you are a Democrat do you support America? No. If you like Baseball are you a fan? Yes.
See how it works?
“The mainstream voter doesn’t want too much religion in their politics. Ted will turn them off. Sad, yet true.”
I interact with a lot of right-leaning people online that are looking to vote against Hillary, and are warm to Trump.
The thing is that most of them are committed atheists or are not fans of organized religion. Not crazy anti-Christian (most are fighting against Islam). Outside of that, they absolutely want a smaller state, and an end to PC/SJW culture.
Cruz isnt even on their radar. They just dont know about him. They want the nation turned around, they just aren’t looking for the candidate Cruz is selling in Iowa.
Just what I’m seeing.
Take a look at the crap originally posted. Take a fair look at the responses that follow. Both sides dish it out pretty evenly.
To Trump supporters I would say if you post crap like GPH posted here, then expect a vitriolic response.
And stop crying.
I like baseball but I don’t care who wins. That may be because my team is Red Sox.
See, there’s your problem ;)
Yes but President Duncan Hunter would have been so much better than McCain, Romney or Obama.
So to sum up:
Cruz’s dad is bad
Cruz’s religion is bad
Baptists are bad
Glenn Beck is bad
Mormons are all bad
Cruz is a member of a cult
They’re all part of an axis power
And this is all relevant to Cruz’s ability to be President or his belief in small government or Federalism how?
I can guarantee you I have never posted a lie on a Ted Cruz thread. I realize the documented truth is unacceptable but that does not change the fact that it is the truth.
I have stopped even engaging in conversations with Cruz supporters on Trump threads, they post vicious lies about Trump and about his supporters with no documentations.
“Sorry conservatives” was not a viscous lie. It was a plain spoken truth. And it is what it is.
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