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To: Mollypitcher1

Not necessarily. According to Vattel, Law of Nations, Must be born of TWO Citizens to be Natural Born and also born on the Soil of the U.S.

A tree is a plant, but a plant is not necessarily a tree.


17 posted on 01/09/2016 9:35:14 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mollypitcher1

The founders of the USA wrote the constitution in 1787 and the first naturalization law in 1790. In both documents they use the phrase “natural born citizen”, and it is very clear that by that 1790 statute Ted Cruz would be considered a “natural born citizen” by the founders of the USA.

Emer de Vattel was a Swiss legal expert, and not a founder of the USA.

Donald Trump has made a lot of conservative Republicans very annoyed with this desperate looking and uncalled for attack on Ted Cruz. The last time they had a tiff Cruz provoked him with a comment at a private meeting, but this time Trump is just trying to bully a fellow Republican, and mislead anyone gullible enough to believe his attack. You can do better Mr Trump, and I hope you will.


47 posted on 01/09/2016 11:01:16 PM PST by doug6352
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To: Mollypitcher1

And Vattel, as interesting as he is, is not US law, and never has been.


90 posted on 01/10/2016 1:07:05 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Mollypitcher1
If the framers of the Constitution had wanted to use Vattel's definition they certainly could have, but they didn't and instead defined a natural born citizen quite differently in 1790. The same men who framed the Constitution said this:

The Act also establishes the United States citizenship of certain children of citizens, born abroad, without the need for naturalization: "the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens".

This act was indeed superceded by subsequent acts in 1795 and 1802 and many others up until today, but I think the framers thought they had defined natural born citizen sufficiently to not have to repeat it in every law.

122 posted on 01/10/2016 7:51:44 AM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: Mollypitcher1
According to Vattel, Law of Nations, Must be born of TWO Citizens to be Natural Born and also born on the Soil of the U.S.

The U.S. didn't even exist when Vattel wrote his book.

335 posted on 01/11/2016 10:26:46 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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