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If Cruz is Eligible Because His Mom Was a U.S. Citizen Then so is Obama

Posted on 01/18/2016 5:57:15 PM PST by Enlightened1

For all the arguments that went on for years on this web site, talk radio and many other sites about Obama's eligibility.... If Cruz is eligible because his mom was a U.S. Citizen, then so is Obama because his mom was a U.S. Citizen.... Just saying!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: birthplace; cruz; mom; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama
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1 posted on 01/18/2016 5:57:15 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

and vis versa


2 posted on 01/18/2016 5:59:39 PM PST by clamper1797 (Repeat after me ... there is no such thing as a "moderate" muslim)
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To: Enlightened1

Nope. Obama’s mother wasn’t old enough at the time of his birth to confer citizenship. You didn’t see that back when this was being discussed?


3 posted on 01/18/2016 5:59:57 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ 2016)
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To: Enlightened1

And your tirade is breaking news how?


4 posted on 01/18/2016 6:00:18 PM PST by PROCON (Proud CRUZader!)
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To: Enlightened1

Or you could flip it around and say Cruz is a natural born citizen based on the Obama precedent.


5 posted on 01/18/2016 6:00:31 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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No, because Stanley Ann had not lived the requisite number of years after the age of fifteen in the states. I think it is five, and she was 19.


6 posted on 01/18/2016 6:00:35 PM PST by ecomcon
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To: Enlightened1

Everyone knows he is eligible. They are trying to take him out. The hardcore trumpees blindly believe everything they think he said.
I just love all the candidates shooting at him at one time. He has the best temperament. 180 degrees from the trumpmeister.


7 posted on 01/18/2016 6:00:40 PM PST by libbylu (Trump's supporters have the same brain disease as Hillary's supporters)
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To: Enlightened1

Isn’t that why they said he was born in Hawaii so he would have been born on US soil?


8 posted on 01/18/2016 6:00:55 PM PST by tirednvirginia
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“If Cruz is eligible because his mom was a U.S. Citizen, then so is Obama because his mom was a U.S. Citizen.... Just saying!” Actually, not. In order to confer citizenship on her son, Obama’s mother had to be at least 19 yeas old when he was born. She was eighteen. Since his father was not a US citizen, Obama’s claim to eligibility rests entirely on whether he was born in Hawaii.


9 posted on 01/18/2016 6:01:13 PM PST by mkmensinger
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To: clamper1797

Exactly!


10 posted on 01/18/2016 6:01:29 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

So, if Cruz is deemed legally to be ineligible, you are good with totally vacating every executive action in the last 7+ years?


11 posted on 01/18/2016 6:01:42 PM PST by Hegemony Cricket (The emperor < still > has no pedigree.)
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Just saying eh?

Saying ignorant things really.

Obama’s mother was too young and outside the country for too long to convey her US citizenship to her child under the law - if her child was born outside the US.

But keep spewing ignorant things... It makes you look really smart and all...


12 posted on 01/18/2016 6:01:47 PM PST by DB
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Try and keep up. Obama’s mother did not fulfill the statue’s requirement that she live 5 years in the U.S., over the age of 16. In 1961, she was 19. According to the statute in effect at that time, she could not transfer citizenship to her “son” because his father was citizen of Kenya.

It had nothing to do with where he was born.


13 posted on 01/18/2016 6:01:48 PM PST by Tzfat
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Not according to the relevant statutes. Cruz eligible, Obama not. You

You CzDS people are as bad as the TDS people.


14 posted on 01/18/2016 6:02:10 PM PST by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Absolutely correct.


15 posted on 01/18/2016 6:02:25 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: libbylu

I’m a fair-minded person, and the way I read it, there’s nothing that legally defines “natural born.”
Many ways to interpret, based on the source (none which are referenced in the Constitution).
So regardless of whether you’re a Trump, Cruz, or Obama supporter... it is unclear, legally, period!


16 posted on 01/18/2016 6:02:27 PM PST by Randall_S (Let's sink some ships.)
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To: Enlightened1

The difference is that Obama has a US birth certificate and Cruz doesn’t.

The originalist interpretation of natural born citizen is born in US soil.

Scalia, Thomas, Alito, etc would all strike down a Cruz candidacy. Cruz is counting on the lib judges.


17 posted on 01/18/2016 6:02:43 PM PST by Helicondelta
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If both were born abroad, one would be naturalized, and the other would be a foreigner.

The one for sure born abraod (Cruz) is naturalized.

Taking Obama born in the US, "dual citizen at birth" and "NBC" are mutually exclusive categories. He's not naturalized, but he is not NBC.

18 posted on 01/18/2016 6:03:21 PM PST by Cboldt
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Obama’s birth certificate says he was born in Hawaii.

Cruz was born in Canada.
And up until he renounced his Candaian citizenship 15 months ago,
he could have run for political office in Canada.

Now that will blow your mind.


19 posted on 01/18/2016 6:04:01 PM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittancez)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Exactly. That is why, for Obama, the location of his birth is important. ( and not so with Cruz)


20 posted on 01/18/2016 6:04:03 PM PST by D Rider
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