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Levin: “I’m Sick and Tired of Stupid Talk!”
Conservative Review ^ | January 19th, 2016 | Phil Shiver

Posted on 01/18/2016 6:23:12 PM PST by Isara

Four days since the debate and everyone is still talking about non-issues like Ted Cruz’s citizenship, his loan filing error, and “New York values.”

Editor-in-Chief Mark Levin advises conservatives not to get dragged into the media’s games or campaign squabbles, because he knows “if we do not nominate a solid conservative, we’re going to lose our country.”

He reminds the American people that this election is about them—not about Donald Trump, or Marco Rubio, or Ted Cruz, and goes on to ask—especially those furthering the “stupid talk”—a very serious and humbling question:

“Do we want to save the country or not?"

Listen to the full segment here:

Levin: "I'm Sick and Tired of Stupid Talk!" (Audio)

Levin reminded listener to not forget who the real enemy is: The Democratic Party represented by Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Sen. Ted Cruz was once unanimously considered a hero of conservatism, a fighter against the Establishment, only now to have his words twisted and to be cast as a foe.

Levin believes the  American people don’t have to be dragged into such stupidity.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; cruz; election2016; levin; lyinlevin; marklevin; newyork; radiodemagogue; solidconservative; talkradio; tcruz; tedcruz; trump
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To: Isara

Presidential Candidates Comparison (Cruz vs. Trump)

Please click on the dots for more details on the ratings of the candidates.

green = Good, RED = Bad, yellow = Mixed Ted Cruz Donald Trump
Budget, Spending & Debt green yellow
Civil Liberties green RED
Education green green
Energy & Environment green green
Foreign Policy & Defense green green
Free Market yellow RED
Health Care & Entitlements green RED
Immigration green green
Moral Issues green yellow
Second Amendment green yellow
Taxes, Economy & Trade green yellow

More at Conservative Review: https://www.conservativereview.com/2016-presidential-candidates

41 posted on 01/18/2016 6:45:25 PM PST by Isara
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To: Isara

CR Editors: Trump's Questionable Political History

It is hard not to feel protective over Donald Trump while the political classes are seething and scornful.

They are unacquainted with such powerlessness. Control was never supposed to stray this far from their grasp. And their rage, manifested in every hapless attack on Trump and his supporters, actually seems to be improving the likelihood of that outcome they fear most of all.

How tempting, under these circumstances, to rush to his defense, as so many in the conservative movement have already done. The Donald has boldly made himself a standard bearer of unpopular (…within the political bubble), yet critical policy positions concerning national security, from the urgency of immigration enforcement to the potential implications of refugee resettlement. 

He has played a pivotal role in dragging these and other issues from the shadows that the media might otherwise have not been so quick to shine a light on. He has made the case against birthright citizenship, spent countless campaign hours pledging to build a wall, and talked tough to the politically correct mafia at a time when its fascistic influence has left millions of citizens feeling voiceless.

Trump’s style and substance—brazen, unapologetic and quite popular—have upended equanimity on the left, leaving the “public intellectuals” screaming over one another to denounce his absurdity, the effrontery, the horror.

But the fact that the D.C. establishment is fighting Trump’s current rhetoric from the left obscures a more important discussion of whether Trump is truly the man they perceive him to be.  Whether he really is the mortal enemy of the political correctness leviathan and the ultimate outsider who is not sucked in by the elitist groupthink.  It also obscures some of Trump’s own attacks on conservatives… from the left

Here are some of the issues that are important to clarify before Trump is anointed as the presumptive nominee:

Immigration

The issue of immigration is likely the single biggest factor in propelling Trump to an enduring lead in this race.  And for good reason.  In many respects immigration is a compound issue that encompasses the most important challenges America faces in the coming years.  Yet, Republicans and D.C. conservatives have ignored these problems for years.  In comes Donald Trump who literally wrote “the Art of the Deal” and is cognizant of what his prospective consumers want to purchase.  He offers them the red meat.  But is this really who Trump is on immigration and is this what to expect from a President Trump or even presidential nominee Trump?

We are not talking about positions he has taken years ago before he became a Republican.  In 2013, conservatives were fighting for dear life to oppose open borders, while Trump was not only supporting the Dream Act, but echoing the liberal politically correct talking points behind it.  In August of 2013, he reportedly told a group of illegal aliens, “You have convinced me” of the need to pass the Dream Act.

This was not a one off.  Even after announcing his presidential bid, Trump continued to promote the false talking points about our responsibility to do something for the countries and families that violated our sovereignty:

We’re going to do something. I’ve been giving it so much thought, you know you have a — on a humanitarian basis, you have a lot of deep thought going into this, believe me. I actually have a big heart.…I mean, a lot of people don’t understand that, but the DREAMers, it’s a tough situation, we’re going to do something, and one of the things we’re going to do is expedite — when somebody’s terrific, we want them back here, but they have to be legally.

At best, it sounds like talking out of both sides of one’s mouth; at worst, it’s an embrace of the reasoning used by President Obama and his advocates for the Dream Act and executive amnesty.

Again, not a one off.

During an interview with NBC in August 2013, around the same time he was promoting the “Dreamers,” Trump was asked which portions of the Senate [Gang of Eight bill] he would support. Trump demurred, "I actually think it's too early to say." 

This is nothing short of breathtaking ignorance given the Gang of Eight bill was one of the worst and most consequential pieces of legislation to come through the Senate in recent memory.  It was introduced in April of that year and voted on in June.  Trump’s comments were made months after conservatives, including some current writers for Conservative Review, had exposed numerous aspects of the bill.  It was long after every legitimate amendment was rejected.  How could there have been any ambiguity about the bill in August 2013?

Syrian Refugees

On September 8, 2015, Trump said the following about the Syrian refugees: “I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis of what’s happening, you have to.”  Just a day later he partially reversed course:

I think we should help, but I think we should be very careful because frankly, we have very big problems. We're not gonna have a country if we don't start getting smart.

Then he went on to promote a ban on Muslim immigration.  This proposal set off an imbroglio within the political world that completely washed away the fact that Trump’s first thoughts were to follow the groupthink.    

Conservatives need to know if Donald Trump is really the man who will put Americans first and demolish the “dummies” in Washington or if his lack of a coherent philosophy will lead him to reflexively parrot the very politically correct talking points he so vehemently assails and yet has so often adopted.  Is Trump who we think he is on immigration or is he pragmatically trying to tap into a frustration to win the primary with a plan to revert to his original talking points after winning? 

Mitch McConnell

In one of the biggest ironies of this political cycle, Trump has long praised Mitch McConnell, the man who is the embodiment of why people are fed up with the party and attracted to Trump in the first place.  While conservatives were fighting to get rid of McConnell in the 2014 primaries, Trump said, "It would be a shame if he didn't win, because he has such power, it's so good for his state."

It comes as no surprise, then, that late last year Trump criticized Cruz for acting like a “maniac” when he called McConnell a liar.  How does Trump plan to fight political correctness and the culture of the D.C. establishment when he has championed the mastermind of the GOP establishment and is offended by the non-politically correct criticism of its leader? 

Judicial Tyranny   

The courts they are not only governed by political correctness, they enshrine political correctness into our Constitution and threaten our existence as a democratic republic based upon representative government.  Yet, Trump has often been ambivalent when discussing the courts.  Kim Davis being thrown in jail by a lawless federal court was a watershed event in American history for religious liberty.  It was also a defining moment for the candidates.  Trump said the following on September 8, while Davis was sitting in jail for being a Christian:

We had a ruling from the Supreme Court and we are a country of laws and you have to do what the Supreme Court ultimately, whether you like the decision or not, and it was a 5-4 decision, whether you like the decision or not, you have to go along with the Supreme Court. That’s the way it is.

A few months later, Trump attacked Scalia, saying he was being “very tough” on “that community” for poking legal holes in the arguments for affirmative action for black students.  What happened to the man who hates political correctness and the elites? 

Isn’t it fair to ask what sort of judges he would appoint?  He seems to strongly vouch for his sister’s ability as a judge on the Third Circuit Court of appeals, even though she is a radical leftist.  While we certainly don’t expect him to personally attack his sister, he certainly didn’t sound like he disagreed with her left-wing politics on abortion.  

Guns

After flooding the country with so many security problems, the next step towards transforming America into a politically correct European socialist utopia is to strip people of their guns.  Shouldn’t we expect our nominee to be able to litigate that case against Hillary Clinton?

Yet, there are still some open questions as to where Trump stands on the issue.  In his book, The America We Deserve, although Trump eschewed outright bans on guns, he echoed Hillary’s talking points about the need to support common sense restrictions. 

The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions. I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun.

In a 1999 interview Trump was asked by Larry King whether he supported the NRA position against expanded background checks.  Here is what he had to say:

Yes, yes, no, I favor -- I favor you have to go through a process, but the fact is that the bad ones already have one, and they're not going to go through a process either; they're not going to go through any process. Look, there's nothing I like better than nobody has them, but that's not going to happen, Larry. So, as long as that's not going to happen, I say you have to be allowed to have a gun.

Does this sound like someone who understands the Constitution and can debate Hillary on the issue with full confidence?  Were these quotes just the old Donald Trump from 16 years ago or is that small voice of Manhattan cosmopolitan aversion to firearms still in the back of his head?  Conservatives have a right to know.

Obamacare

While boundless immigration is the tool through which Democrats want to transform our society, Obamacare is the ultimate tool to transform our economy.  Republicans lost an election in 2012 by nominating the one man in the world who thought of the Obamacare scheme before Obama did, thereby taking our best issue off the table during the general election.  Given Trump’s support for single-payer in the past and the fact that he still has not yet disavowed it, are Republicans prepared to nominate the one man who agrees with it during an election against the woman who originally promoted socialized medicine?

These are all important questions which any conservative on any level is entitled to have answered.  But with the liberal and conservative media focusing so much of their fire on Trump’s personality, or attacking him from the left on immigration, these are issues that will likely never be resolved. 

Fox News, along with a cohort of ratings-seeking bedfellows, has played on the strengths of the Trump anomaly and has arguably been the main cause for his meteoric rise in the polls. Trump has made his personality a central figure in this contest and the media has indulged him, belying the self-important pundit entreaties to focus on the issues and make them answer tough questions. Perhaps in seeking to spotlight his crassness and precipitate his downfall, the opinion kings have spared him any serious inquisition whatsoever.

Conservative voters are surely left between a rock and a hard place. There is a false choice being offered by talking heads and elected officials in both parties: Either we side with an indignant, if inconsistent, tycoon outsider, or we leave the serious issues in the hands of people who could care less about them and are sure to let us down. This dichotomy taps into the exasperation so many feel with the conservatives already empowered—those who think speeches are a fine enough remedy. You’ll get no argument from Conservative Review that this exasperation is not honest and justified. But is it enough to blind us to the unknowns of a candidate’s principles at a time when principle is what matters most?

Naturally, the movement is reluctant to oppose someone already opposed by the most destructive and self-interested forces in the business. And quite admittedly, the party elites who dislike Trump dislike him for the wrong reasons; but that should not stop conservatives from mistrusting him for the right ones.  

42 posted on 01/18/2016 6:46:27 PM PST by Isara
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To: Isara
The Establishment Stands with Trump
43 posted on 01/18/2016 6:48:00 PM PST by Isara
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To: Hugin

I’ve listened to Mark for a long time, but this has been wearing on me. His unwillingness to debate someone who disagrees with him (”Get out of here, you big dope!) is entertaining the first couple of times, and that’s it.

I miss the days when G. Gordon Liddy was on his game in the early to mid 90s. He had no trouble debating an opponent on the merits without getting flustered (Hello, Rush!). If Mark wants to show that he has the superior position as regards Cruz and the NBC issue, he should invite Laurence Tribe on the show and have an intellectual debate—not yelling and name calling.


44 posted on 01/18/2016 6:48:22 PM PST by CASchack
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To: Wilderness Conservative

I did the same late this afternoon. No TV tonight, no talk radio tomorrow.


45 posted on 01/18/2016 6:49:21 PM PST by dforest
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To: Blue Collar Christian

Mark needs to take a zanax and calm down. A couple of months ago he was trying to tell us all that Marco Rubio was severely Conservative. LOL!


46 posted on 01/18/2016 6:49:54 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Hugin

It is hoped a year from now we are not looking at another Glenn Beck. The fall from Grace is never pleasant.


47 posted on 01/18/2016 6:49:58 PM PST by V K Lee (u TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP to TRIUMPH Follow the lead MAKE AMERICA GREAT)
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To: Isara

The leftists don’t like Conservative Constitutionalist Mark Levin...go listen to lawrence tribe clinton supporter!


48 posted on 01/18/2016 6:50:12 PM PST by RginTN
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To: Theo

Moderate ? Trump has articulated and forcefully argued truly Conservative positions better than any other candidate and the masses agree. Cruz was busy down at the border handing out goodies with Beck


49 posted on 01/18/2016 6:50:31 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Trump is the only one who can win the general election . With Cruz we lose)
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To: Randall_S
Levin has been practically silent on the real problem - the Muslim Brotherhood and the Obama administration. He won't talk about it in any substantive detail. He treats it like a conspiracy theory.

Mark's got some sort of normalcy bias going on. He appears to be frozen in time, as regards the true situation of the country. Same thing with Rush and most every other big name talker.

At the moment in time that they should all be emulating American heroes such as Thomas Paine and Paul Revere, they've got their minds firmly cemented into pure partisan politics.

They don't seem to grasp that we're now in a post-political period. The nation is in an existential crisis which it well may not survive, should we elect another garden variety politician to the office of President.

Mark, Rush, Sean -- are all wasting their precious megaphones on the ridiculous, superfluous aspects of the stupid horse race, while our nation is on the edge of civil war or worse.

50 posted on 01/18/2016 6:50:32 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Theo
No. Maybe this time we vote for the electable conservative. And win.

Cruz is a slimy car salesmen who isn't even winning the primaries. Cruz only leads by one or two points in Utah and California, and is behind in Iowa 2 points and everywhere else by 15-20 points.

51 posted on 01/18/2016 6:50:48 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

“In fact I’m tired of hearing the crap that comes from all of the TV and radio yaps.”

I fully agree! Getting rid of the direct plumbing (TeeVee) of the “yaps” into my house was a significant improvement in my quality of life. It’s bad enough reading all the in house fighting between conservatives right here, that I can think of little reason why I’d want to pay to watch ‘professional’ RINOs and libtards on a screen, or pay to even listen to such.


52 posted on 01/18/2016 6:51:10 PM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Which primary has Cruz lost?


53 posted on 01/18/2016 6:52:01 PM PST by Theo (Trump = French Revolution. Cruz = American Revolution. Choose wisely.)
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To: Isara

wow, so according to the new wizards of smart on Free Republic, Mark Levin and Ted Cruz are the problem Beam me up. This place needs a fumigating.


54 posted on 01/18/2016 6:52:40 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: Isara

When you post that stupid chart from Conservative Review, you should also tell your readers that CR has Cruz BFF Horowitz, a Ted Cruz speech writer and even insane partisan Mark Levin as an editor.

It is not an objective source. It is a wing of the Cruz campaign.


55 posted on 01/18/2016 6:52:42 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: CASchack

First, Laurence Tribe wouldn’t go on Mark’s show because he knows he would lose, and second, why should he debate an issue he doesn’t think is an issue.

All issues aren’t worth debating. Mark has made his position on this issue and the constitution perfectly clear. If you chose to believe Laurence Tribe over Mark, so be it.


56 posted on 01/18/2016 6:53:44 PM PST by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: CASchack

How do you feel about Trump’s unwillingness to debate, name calling, slurs, making faces, foul language, and mocking fellow candidates?


57 posted on 01/18/2016 6:54:08 PM PST by Tzfat
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To: Windflier

What should Mark, Rush, and Sean be saying exactly..according to you.


58 posted on 01/18/2016 6:54:11 PM PST by Osage Orange (Nowadays we are just Central America with snow.)
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To: Blue Collar Christian

If Sarah Palin appeared this week for Trump at time where Trump is acting the fool over conservatives and attacking from the far left, shame on her. She needs to rethink the timing. She campaigned for Cruz and Cruz is one of the few that gave her full credit for the effect she has, unlike all the ungrateful sleaze bags like Nikki Hallie and the loser Senator from New Hampshire. An endorsement for Trump may make sense in a week or closer to the vote, but not now.


59 posted on 01/18/2016 6:56:12 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: Windflier

I listened for 30 minutes before clicking the OFF button.

Mark is going to have a sharp drop in his ratings, due to his rantings.


60 posted on 01/18/2016 6:57:15 PM PST by TomGuy
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