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National Review Squanders Its Legacy; Disdains Founder Bill Buckley’s Advice
vanity | January 22, 1916 | Albion Wilde

Posted on 01/22/2016 10:38:17 AM PST by Albion Wilde

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To: zeestephen
NR's recent attack on Trump is based on the fact that there is very little evidence that Trump was a Conservative on any major issue before 2015.

It only stands to reason that a captialist who owns many copyrights, contracts, and extensive real property all over the U.S. and in other countries would necessarily have conservative views financially, economically and in terms of stable financial markets and consumer markets, as well as pro-American employment regulations. It isn't logical that a billionaire, much of whose wealth and that of his children is still invested in real property, would want to go communist or socialist once he were elected president.

The concerns about conservatism you may be indicating probably have more to do with social conservatism. In this area, Trump's past positions are mixed at best; but they are also those of a businessman who was operating out of a blue state in a very blue city and needed to get along. Now, since he is taking this stand, he can refine his conservative leanings that have been "in the closet" for years, but have peeked out in a number of ways, such as his testimony before Congress in 1991 about repairing the economy as regards housing for all levels including low-income housing, his having clinched the fight against the Ground Zero mosque proposal, his fight 10 years ago with the city of Palm Beach that tried to stop him from flying a large American flag, and many other hints from before he was any kind of politician.

His main attraction as a candidate for me is his financial and economic skill. If we do not get our huge U.S. debt, bad financial relationships with other nations and domestic economic woes related to immigration straightened out, we will not longer have a society for conservatives to conserve. I see him as a flawed human with the best set of skills for the severe crisis we are now facing, which is primarily out economic vulnerability and eroded national borders.

221 posted on 01/23/2016 3:54:15 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: onyx
Lowry's been pouting and fuming since Roger Ailes smacked him for using foul language in an attack on GOP frontrunner billionaire Donald Trump way back in September of 2015 on Megyn Kelly's Cable TV show.

Very interesting! Especially since the hit piece by Dennis Prager in the NR Cavalcade of Hit Pieces issue was whining about Trump's bad language! LOL!

BTW, freepmail for you.

222 posted on 01/23/2016 4:01:36 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: PhilDragoo

Cool graphic, PhilDragoo!


223 posted on 01/23/2016 4:04:09 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Thank you.

Will check my mail now.

XOXO


224 posted on 01/23/2016 4:04:42 PM PST by onyx (HAVE YOU MADE YOUR DONATION to OUR FReep-a-Thon? PLEASE MAKE IT TODAY!)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Thanks for the ping! Great line in that article: “Apparently the guys who endorsed Romney think they’re qualified to tell us who is and who isn’t conservative.”


225 posted on 01/23/2016 4:20:46 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: Madame Dufarge

( ( oh, my! ) )

thank you very much!


226 posted on 01/23/2016 4:22:09 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: Madame Dufarge
The newspapers kept the people in alarm for their liberties and made the controversy between mother country and colonies a great popular crusade in which every American could take part. The Tories groaned that by dint of reading newspapers, even 'the peasants and their housewives in every part of the land were able to dispute on politics and positively to determine upon our liberties."

Wonderful quote! And when I taught a college course in communications, I loved the unit on how Benjamin Franklin -- a writer, printer, scholar, scientist, postmaster and diplomat -- changed the course of history with his all-fronts communications. He was the 18th century's "king of all media"!

227 posted on 01/23/2016 4:27:33 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
have any of the contributors actually produced any advances toward conservative goals? No, these people have accomplished essentially nothing to stop the advance of the progressive agenda.

I can't say that none of the contributors have done anything at all to stop the progressive agenda -- I have certainly thought highly of Sowell's body of work, for one, and Bozell's excellent quantitative tracking of media bias and testimonies before congress and at shareholders' meetings to try to turn back the tide of pornification of our children, and was greatly disappointed to see their names on the list.

But thinking of how a magazine is organized, most were not staff writers but a bunch of contributors from all across the country. They wrote what they wrote and emailed it and probably had little to do with brainstorming the format of the attack. The fault for that lies with the editor Rich Lowry, and I would guess his major staff associates Jonah Goldberg and certainly Brent Bozell, Buckley's nephew, whose piece truly saddened me to think he could stoop so low.

228 posted on 01/23/2016 4:37:15 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
I believe NR was once referred to s the conservatives Bible

Yes, I've often heard that.

229 posted on 01/23/2016 4:38:52 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: marktwain

I very much appreciate your close reading and comments, sir!


230 posted on 01/23/2016 4:42:07 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: Redbob
"Yet Buckley, along with the unlikely intellectual partner Ronald Reagan..." WTF? So YOU'RE an "intellectual but Reagan wasn't???

I'm sorry you took that as a negative against Reagan, which it was not intended to be. I was writing from the perspective of the typiclal magazine reader of National Review, or the viewer of media reports of Reagan -- in other words, public perceptions, in which the two men might have appeared totally different. Here are some of the ways:

Buckley - east coast
Reagan - west coast

Buckley - Catholic
Reagan - Protestant

Buckley - urbane, wealthy background
Reagan - small town working class origins

Buckley - Ivy League
Reagan - small college

Buckley - known early for intellectual prowess
Reagan - known early for Hollywood acting career

Buckley - Catholic
Reagan - Protestant

Buckley - theoretical views of communism
Reagan - actually fought against communist influence in actor's union

Buckley - limited audience of similar upscale people
Reagan - broader audience of a variety of people, most in the middle

Buckley - portrayed by media as great intellectual, perhaps overestimated
Reagan - portrayed by media as stupid, lazy and senile; greatly underestimated

I could go on; but you get the picture of how their lives may have seemed in contrast in the public's eyes. This contrast is what made them unlikely partners; however, I have the greatest respect not only for Reagan's intellect, but also his, to my mind, superior communication skills between the two men for the purposes they set out to accomplish. Their teamwork created a great resurgence of respect for the lasting initiatives of our Founders, and formed a powerful coalition that has unfortunately been squandered by the Bush cartel.
231 posted on 01/23/2016 5:02:27 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: Albion Wilde
Trump is an interesting and smart guy.

But I do not want him to manage my money.

And I do not want him to manage my country.

Four of his companies have filed for bankruptcy protection. In spite of being a billionaire, Trump has made no attempt to pay back the investors and vendors who lost money in those companies.

Trump has been sued at least three times for fraud, and he has been the subject of a criminal fraud investigation at least twice.

Between 2000-2012, he quit, joined, or re-joined three different political parties six times.

Sorry - I don't believe a word the man says.

232 posted on 01/23/2016 10:42:57 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen
What exactly have the ^consistent conservatives^ in congress accomplished?

Obamacare scrapped?
Illegals deported?
Wall built?
Anchor babies outlawed?
National debt reduced?
Abortion restricted?
China trade deficit reduced?
Food stamp growth curbed?
Welfare growth reduced?
Fraud in Medicare & Social Security under control? (25% of Medicare payments go to fraudulent claims, and there are tens of thousands of people over age 110 still getting social security checks automatically)

If Trump can deliver any 3 of above, he is more than enough conservative for most rational people.

Trump is conservative on these issues:

Pro life since at least 2011, wanted to ban partial birth abortion as far back as 2000.
Pro Traditional marriage. ^Gay rights is not my thing.^
Pro capital punishment ^Capital punishment isn't uncivilized; murderers living is^
Hold Judges accountable
Opposes ^Common core is a disaster^ Teach citizenship, quit ^dumbing down^.
Anti education unions (2000)
For school choice
^Climate Change is a hoax^
^No Cap-and-Tax^
For drilling our own.
On Environment ^Good development enhances the environment^
Stressed the importance of a strong family & culture of life (2015)
Supports Israel
Opposes Iran deal and letting Iran obtain the bomb.
Wants to crush ISIS quickly.
Wants a military so strong no one will challenge us.
Against unbalanced trade deals that kill American jobs.
Against warrant-less government surveillance of citizens.
Is against having a high national debt. Warns that $24T is a point of no return.
Against gun control
For assault weapon ban but says the AR-15 shouldn't be considered an assault weapon.
Wants to repeal Obamacare and replace it with market driven polices and increased competition among insurance companies.
Wants to increase military spending.
Will close the border to illegals
Will send the criminals and sponges back.
Will deport all illegals but will let the hard working ones go through the legal process to come back.
Against Anchor babies
Knows unemployment is much higher than official stats.
Will bring jobs back through better trade negotiation.
Attended military academy and Wharton Business School.
Stood up for Birthers and challenged Obama on his fraud.
Believes USA is ^the greatest force for freedom the world has ever known^
Wants to honor commitments on Social Security and Medicare, which we can afford to do if he gets the economy going full steam.
Wants to reduce the fraud in disability and other programs.
Against marriage penalties in tax code.
Wants to simplify tax code with just 3 simple brackets.
Wants to reduce income taxes and reduce corporate tax.
Wants to rebuild our infrastructure.
Wants to apply welfare-to-work to 76 other welfare programs (2011)
Doesn't have time for political correctness.
Not afraid to call out either party or both when they are wrong.
Not a puppet of mega-rich campaign donors.
Go Trump 2016!

233 posted on 01/24/2016 12:35:11 AM PST by entropy12 (Abdul Aziz born in Saudi Arabia to Saudi father and American mother is Natural Born Citizen? Really?)
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To: Albion Wilde

Please Ping me (from your Trump list) when you post such great vanity articles.


234 posted on 01/24/2016 12:40:01 AM PST by entropy12 (Abdul Aziz born in Saudi Arabia to Saudi father and American mother is Natural Born Citizen? Really?)
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To: Pelham

Have you figured out what is the real reason people like Medved have morbid hatred of Trump? He started anti-Trump campaign on radio almost on day 1 when trump announced he was running.


235 posted on 01/24/2016 12:45:14 AM PST by entropy12 (Abdul Aziz born in Saudi Arabia to Saudi father and American mother is Natural Born Citizen? Really?)
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To: Albion Wilde

John Lennon - Watching The Wheels

236 posted on 01/24/2016 12:48:40 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life :o)
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To: MayflowerMadam
Yesterday someone on a news channel said that National Review treated Reagan similarly during his campaign.

If somebody "on a news channel" said that, they were either a liar, a moron, or both. Probably both. [And also, probably, a Trumpbot.]

WFB himself described Reagan unswervingly as his best friend. NR not only endorsed Reagan for both runs in 1980 and 1984, they also endorsed Reagan in his challenge to the sitting Republican President Gerald Ford in 1976.

237 posted on 01/24/2016 2:11:24 AM PST by FredZarguna (You did not see what I did there.)
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Poll FReep: If the election were held today, who would be your first choice for President of the United States?


238 posted on 01/24/2016 2:28:36 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Albion Wilde

I’ve always been an admirer of Silence Dogood...:-)


239 posted on 01/24/2016 5:13:06 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Albion Wilde
followed by the likes of Robert Bork

Interesting you would include him since Trump and supporters have become experts in "Borking" of their opponents.

240 posted on 01/24/2016 5:19:23 AM PST by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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