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LAPD Officers Won’t Face Charges After Opening Fire on Delivery Women During Dorner Manhunt
Los Angeles Tiems ^ | 01/27/2016 | By Joseph Serna and Kate Mather•

Posted on 01/27/2016 5:19:23 PM PST by BenLurkin

ight Los Angeles police officers who mistakenly opened fire on Los Angeles Times newspaper delivery women thinking they were rogue ex-cop Christopher Dorner in 2013 will not be criminally charged, the L.A. County district attorney’s office announced Wednesday.

The officers opened fire in the predawn hours of Feb. 7, 2013, as Margie Carranza and her mother, Emma Hernandez, were slowly cruising though a Torrance neighborhood in a pickup truck delivering papers.

Law enforcement officers around the region were on edge during the massive manhunt for Dorner, the ex-LAPD officer who sought vengeance against police officials he blamed for his firing. Dorner ultimately killed four people and wounded three others before he died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound during a shootout with police near Big Bear.

In Torrance, the LAPD officers were in the area protecting a captain believed to be one of Dorner's targets. The officers thought the women's truck matched the description of Dorner's vehicle.

Hernandez was shot twice. Carranza suffered cuts to her hand, likely from broken glass. Both women survived and received a $4.2-million legal settlement from the city.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: california; deliverywomen; donutwatch; dorner; doughnutwatch; lapd; manhunt; moreequal; whitewash
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yep, ‘on edge’.

Almost feel sorry for any person that gets ‘trapped’ in that job. Oh, wait, this isn’t Communism and people can pick/choose their professions??


21 posted on 01/27/2016 5:33:37 PM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Osage Orange
LAPD is not particularly fond of oilcans, either!

22 posted on 01/27/2016 5:34:03 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Secret Agent Man

But not black hispanics, right?


23 posted on 01/27/2016 5:34:16 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: BenLurkin

Once again, as I had seen my 8 years as an adult in SoCal, the LAPD gets off, again.


24 posted on 01/27/2016 5:35:55 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: RobinOfKingston
Two little Latino ladies = one big black guy.

Newspaper hitting pavement = gunshot.

"The fear of Dorner was understandable and justified," the document said. "There is no evidence to suggest that the officers did not honestly believe that Dorner was in the vehicle, nor is there evidence to suggest that the officers did not honestly believe they were being fired upon."

By this reasoning, any citizen who HONESTLY believes he is being threatened or attacked by any plainsclothes officer, any no-knock warrant, any officer in dim light should be able to shoot first and walk free.

The ladies won't have to work again if they are sensible, thanks to the taxpayers, but maybe the officers should be sentenced to mow their grass, clean their pool, and pick up after their dogs, on a weekly basis for the next thirty years, as a kind of reminder. Along with a weekly "I am so glad I am a lousy shot and did not kill you" note.

25 posted on 01/27/2016 5:36:55 PM PST by heartwood (If you're looking for a </sarc tag>, you just saw it.)
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To: BenLurkin

But they will fire 6 officers in Minneapolis?


26 posted on 01/27/2016 5:41:33 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: BenLurkin


SURE... Likely Story!!! POWPOWPOW bang shoot ACKACKACK pow bang BUDDABUDDABUDDA ACKACKACK bang pow shoot BURRRRRRRP... whoa Whoa WHOA, nice shootin Tex!

27 posted on 01/27/2016 5:54:12 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: BenLurkin

4.2 million from the taxpayers and the police are above the law. Once again. City tax is going up.


28 posted on 01/27/2016 6:01:05 PM PST by Revel
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To: BenLurkin

The police investigated the police and found no wrongdoing by the police. What a surprise.


29 posted on 01/27/2016 6:04:19 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (My music: http://hopalongginsberg.com/ | Facebook: Hopalong Ginsberg)
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To: Uncle Miltie
And cops wonder why we don't trust them

And cops will wonder why when we start shooting back.

30 posted on 01/27/2016 6:06:15 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I remember. The cops turned the truck into Swiss cheese. It’s a miricle the women survived. Wrong color truck, wrong model, and two women in the vehicle. A 100% non-match.


31 posted on 01/27/2016 6:11:54 PM PST by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: Flick Lives

You remember exactly right. I just couldnt believe the horridly gross negligence.


32 posted on 01/27/2016 6:13:26 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: BenLurkin

And the DA showed the redacted police report on TV. Solid blacked out lines, all of them.

He said there wasn’t enough information for him to make a case that the cops weren’t protecting themselves or others from a fleeing felon, or some such blab....

Police report is not ‘public info’, he said.


33 posted on 01/27/2016 6:33:41 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s implied, usless explicitly stated as not applying.)
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To: heartwood

All you have written in your post above are reasonable views. The lack of "failsafes" with modern policing is breathtakingly astounding.

In the event of a wrong address / no-knock raid there is a good chance an innocent homeowner could be shot anyway so perhaps it is reasonable to shoot back so one can at least buy time and be screaming for them to STOP shooting.
Tough call.


34 posted on 01/27/2016 6:35:35 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Saw that. Looked pretty bad.


35 posted on 01/27/2016 6:36:27 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin
The officers opened fire in the predawn hours of Feb. 7, 2013,

So 3 frikken years later we get this whitewash.

36 posted on 01/27/2016 6:51:45 PM PST by Ken H
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To: BenLurkin

Those idiots should be fired. They are too stupid to be cops.


37 posted on 01/27/2016 7:13:51 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Politicians and diapers must be changed often and for the same reason.....Mark Twain)
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To: EveningStar

Ping for the Socal list.


38 posted on 01/27/2016 7:34:39 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: BenLurkin

There is no valid excuse for this. It was panicked shooting, it was in a populated neighborhood, and they hit multiple houses trying to mow down those delivery girls. Beyond, all the shoots to the BACK of the car which was retreating showed full intention of KILLING their target, and eliminates the excuse of self defense.

This really needs to be bumped up to the state or the feds for prosecution if the local DA can’t bring themselves to actually do the right thing.


39 posted on 01/27/2016 7:36:37 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Adding to this story is the Torrance police officer who on the same morning, rammed a black Ford Ranger and then shot three times at the driver who was returning from surfing .

The officer of course was found to be within the boundaries of police protocol...

40 posted on 01/27/2016 7:38:25 PM PST by broken_clock ( Cruz back to the future!)
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