Posted on 01/28/2016 1:36:43 PM PST by justlittleoleme
Well, I am equally and SOOOOOOOOOO tired of Trump supporters who can’t face the reality that there are several Republicans besides Donald Trump who could win the 2016 presidential election. Why should we waste this opportunity to elect a GOP president on a man who has been a Democrat much of his life. The man has no consistency and no moral compass. It may hard for some people to see but Hillary Clinton is in a peck of legal trouble and if by some miracle that she survives, she could well lose the nomination to the socialist-leftist. And we’re really supposed to believe that only Donald Trump can win. That’s funny.
Just after the Texans’ election in November 2012, GOP leader Mitch McConnell – now the Senate majority leader—asked Cruz to serve as NRSC vice chairman in charge of grassroots outreach. In effect, he sought to bring the tea partier into the tent by making him the liaison to tea partiers.
But it quickly became obvious that Cruz wasn’t so much of a team player.
He sought to recruit and promote like-minded conservatives ahead of the 2014 GOP primaries. He worked with outside groups that sometimes backed candidates other than those picked and approved by the NRSC – in particular, the Senate Conservatives Fund, which backed challengers to a number of incumbent Republicans, even including McConnell.
The NRSC’s chief goal is to protect incumbent Republican senators, with growing the GOP’s ranks a close runner up.
In the Senate itself, Cruz regularly bucked party leadership – most notably in instigating the government shutdown in fall 2013, over demands to defund Obamacare.
Outstanding.
Don’t you think the Canadian citizenship will be an issue if he were ever nominated? He’s not a Democrat so you know they would take him to court and the media is counting on this.
Sure, he’s a US citizen but the fact that he had dual citizenship is undeniable and could very well pose a huge obstacle. All the Dems I know talk about it and are chomping at the bit for Birther payback.
I’m saying none of that. Cruz would have no chance to win CT, NJ or NY. Trump will win them against the witch or against the witch and Bloomberg.
That campaign was 37 years ago .
You’ve already seen that play out with Obama. If he were a Dem even FReepers would be filing suits - everywhere. HIs campaign would have to have a litigation department. That he’s not taking care of it himself now shows that he isn;t concerned enough with a death knell risk.
Concur, and it needs to be repeated a lot.
“Just NEVER, NEVER vote for a Democrat. Cheers.”
I did once, in 1991.
Lived in Louisiana and voted for the Democrat running for Governor Eddie “Vote for the Crook’ Edwards. He was later found guilty for federal crimes and locked up in a penitentiary.
You may ask ‘why did you vote for him?’.
His GOP opponent was David Duke.
Never say ‘Never’.
“That campaign was 37 years ago .”
And Reagan’s was 152 years after Andrew Jackson’s.
What exactly is your point?
Dickly, would describe the way you write. The economy, demographics and culture are nothing like they were in 1980. It’s cro-mag to ignore that.
“Dickly, would describe the way you write. The economy, demographics and culture are nothing like they were in 1980. It’s cro-mag to ignore that.”
My writing skills will never be perfect, but it is just plain stupid to be ignoring history like apparently you do.
But, since you wish to talk about changes since 1980, how about the fact that Ted has something going on now that we did not have in 1980: There are a LOT more Latino voters out there. Regean won only 35% in 1980.
Think the first Hispanic nominee running for President will not pick up a few more?
“Are you a Trump birther? Because it seems to me you can’t say Cruz is ineligible now, but that he might be illegible later.”
No one is dealing with the age or residency requirements, because Cruz clearly meets them, so those 2 qualifications are off of the table .
So, we are left with the issue of whether he is a “Natural Born Citizen.” The answer to that question quite naturally depends upon HOW THE TERM IS DEFINED. Why? Because the term is not something used in every day language, and the issue hasn’t really come up in the past. It deals ONLY with the qualification to become President, and only 43 men have ever held that office since 1789.
OK, so then what is the definition? To my way of thinking, it could mean one of two different things:
1) That a person was the child of 2 people who were both American citizens at the time of his/her birth. The reasoning behind this position is that the Founders could have simply said that the person had to be a citizen, or had to be a citizen at birth, but that they used this particular term to ensure that there would be no divided loyalties in the household of the future President. By the way, the place of birth in this case is irrelevant - it depends on the citizenship status of your parents, and NOTHING else.
2) That a person was a citizen at the moment of birth, whether by “natural law” (i.e. they were born on US territory and both parents were citizens at that time - there is NO question that such a person is a citizen AND a “Natural Born Citizen” in those circumstances), or by legislated law (i.e. Congress passes, and the President signs, a bill stating that someone with one U.S. citizen parent is automatically a citizen, or that such takes place only if the U.S. citizen parent intends to return to the U.S., etc.).
OK, so what are we to conclude? Under the first definition, Ted Cruz is NOT a NBC, and thus cannot be the POTUS. Under the second definition, Ted Cruz IS a NBC, and can be the POTUS.
No conspiracy theories necessary, no name-calling necessary, just the bare, essential facts: either he is or he isn’t, ALL DEPENDENT UPON THE DEFINITION OF “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.”
Just to avoid any confusion, I am NOT certain that one of these 2 definitions is correct. I tend to believe that the 1st is the correct one, since the Founders had just fought a war in which roughly 1/3 of the population was loyal to the other side, so loyalty was a big issue, but I simply do not know the answer. What I DO know is that once the term is definitively defined, then the answer is simple for both Ted Cruz and any other person.
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