[danamco]

Let’s see, I have had a little time to analyzing this MURDER that hastily claimed was justified.

Since according to yourself it took place around midnight, I didn’t know they had “Midnight Sun” up there instead of Pitch Black. WHY did all cars involved had their headlights on?

I’m full aware of Zulu time or GMT as this was the time I was working out of in my 30+ year career all over the world.

I did NOT insinuated any D hogwash and Bravo Sierra against you. I realize now that one does NOT questioning a 19+ year of seniority at FR done by a “junior” with only 12+ year on F.R.

As I said before I’ve previous respected you very much, including donated money for your fight with bone cancer.

Your analysis that the killing was justified from how YOU saw it, seems very different as what is coming forward. The Oregonian even showed the reactions slowly LeVoy’ body reactions, who BTW was UNARMED accordingly.

https://www.facebook.com/CitizensForConstitutionalFreedom.NEWS/photos/a.1649978758609487.1073741830.1648792115394818/1656548494619180/?type=3&theater

https://youtu.be/aAGxDWKrjPQ?t=684

• Shawna Cox Testimony of the Death of LaVoy Finicum
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Multiple witness statements are available now. The pickup was fired upon at the first stop and that is why LaVoy drove away.
On top of the murder of a man who tried to surrender peacefully since when is it OK for law enforcement to open fire on a vehicle with 3 people in it who have never showed aggression? That is not OK with me and the American people should be outraged. There is enhanced video out today that shows them shooting up the pickup with multiple rounds from all directions. It is only by the grace of God that these 3 people lived.
Shawna Cox was one of the victims of this aggression and excessive force. She was released from jail on 1-29-16, the same day her son-in-law died in an explosion. Pray for these Americans!
Statements of Shawna Cox below.
At the first stop “ Ryan Payne had both hands out the window and they shot at him”
“Bullets started flying”
“He (LaVoy) jumps out and they are shooting everything. We have lasers everywhere. The bullets don’t quit. They just keep going.”
“5-10 minutes after LaVoy was dead they were still shooting. They wanted us all dead. It was evident.”
“How many rounds?” “Hundreds, hundreds”
“It was evident they had every intention of killing us.”
“Do you still have that video?” “No, they took everything.”
“I’m almost positive he had a bullet proof vest on”
“Even after he was dead they shot him. It was a nightmare.”
“He did not have a gun in his hands. He had no weapons in his hands.”
“We were singing hymns and praying”
“Bullets were flying everywhere. They were coming from behind, that’s what saved us.”
On Mark:
“LaVoy is dead and he is talking about good thing his jeep is still there”
“He wasn’t there, he didn’t see it”
“He is telling lies. Why doesn’t Mark have to go to Portland? We are sure he set us up.”

HAVE A GREAT DAY !!!

[Jeff Head]

You need to read through the thread and others.. The trime being recorded was Zulu time on the video, and this was pinted out and discussed. Zlu time is GMT and is about eifht hurs ahead of the time in Oregon.

I have it corrected it on my own site at http://www.jeffhead.com/lavoy.htm

It occurred at arounf 4:30 in the afternoon.

You can believe whatever you wish. The incident was tragic, and it was senseless that it happened...but it was not murder in th eleast.

Those officerds and the Bundys were put into a sorry situation by superiors at the Fed and State level to end the protest.

The officers complied with legal orders regarding people who they believed were breaking the law in staying at that refuge for as long as they had. We can all feel and know that their protest was justified. We can all understand that they meant to harm no one.

But the officers who were placed in that situation were complying with the law and were acting according ot well defined training and policy...like it or not.

Lavoy drove away from the stop that law enforcement made. He did that.

Lavoy tried to break through/go around a road block that law enforcement had established. He did that too.

Lavoy came very close to hitting a loaw enforcement officer who tried to get him to stop, and failing that tried to force him into the snoow.

Lavoy got out of the vehicle and did not get down on the ground.

All of these things happened...they were all base don decisions that Lavoy made.

I feel horrible about it...but that is principally what led to the shooting that day, because they were all there and the decisions that put them there were already made.

As I have said, I have been in similar circumstances when facing law enforecement when making protest like this. We did similar things at Klamath Flass.

But when you are stopped by law enfocement who know you are armed and perceive you may be dangeoru...you do not do those things.

You are free to believe however you want...so am I.

I went through the whole thing frame by frame and posted my own opinion on the matter, and did so analyticaly, objectoively, and honsetly. (ie. I did not go in with a preconceived notion that murder had been committed).

Now, the legal process wil play itself out and all the details and evidence will come out. I expect that the superiors will and should be looked at real hard and be held culpable for this incident in whatever way possible.

But I have said all of this now about 10-15 times. I am just repeating what has already been said.