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Ted Cruz Has a Thoughtful Conversation With An Iowa Ethanol Farmer
Breitbart ^ | 2/1/16 | John Hayward

Posted on 02/01/2016 12:34:41 PM PST by don-o

Fans of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 97% are buzzing about his encounter with an angry farmer worried that the Senator's stance against ethanol would ruin his livelihood.

It might be a bit of a stretch to say that Cruz completely won the man over, or converted him into a supporter - much is made of the gentleman's wish that Cruz find the votes he needs among Iowa farmers, but that might have just been polite best wishes, or even a dash of cynical humor.

Still, Cruz acquitted himself well during the encounter, spending some five minutes in patient, thoughtful conversation with someone who came to give him hell. Cruz made informed arguments, demonstrated a clear mastery of his subject, turned a hostile encounter cordial, and kept the political balloon juice to a minimum. He is a politician, mind you, but most of them can't get through a conversation of this length without dissolving into a mass of vague promises and bumper-sticker slogans.

Isn't this what voters always say they want - a serious discussion of the issues, and a politician standing on principle when he knows his refusal to deliver an easy pander is costing him votes?

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Iowa; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; canadian; cruz; election2016; energy; ethanol; ineligible; iowa; johnhayward; methane; opec; petroleum; tedcruz; texas
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1 posted on 02/01/2016 12:34:41 PM PST by don-o
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To: don-o

The ethanol farmer’s livihood is sustained by ruining ours ...


2 posted on 02/01/2016 12:39:51 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: don-o

>> ...spending some five minutes in patient, thoughtful conversation with someone who came to give him hell. Cruz made informed arguments, demonstrated a clear mastery of his subject...

I didn’t listen to the audio (sorry), but I have met the man and spoken with him for a few moments. I didn’t “come to give him hell”, but I was cynical and skeptical of him, as I am of all pols.

I heartily agree with this description. It’s an accurate description of some of Ted’s formidable strengths.

I am a solid supporter of Ted Cruz. He has won my support in a way no POTUS candidate has in more than two decades.


3 posted on 02/01/2016 12:41:21 PM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: don-o

“Isn’t this what voters always say they want - a serious discussion of the issues, and a politician standing on principle when he knows his refusal to deliver an easy pander is costing him votes?”

It’s what voters say they want.

I think it is kind of like the girls who bemoan not being able to meet nice guys, but then routinely go to bars and get passed around a Hells Angel’s club.


4 posted on 02/01/2016 12:41:41 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: don-o

The angry guy makes a point. Why not take away subsidies from energy companies in Texas? Of course Cruz didn’t answer that......typical.


5 posted on 02/01/2016 12:42:04 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

And he’ll phase out ethanol after 5 years is what i’ve heard him previously say. Meaning he’s full of it! If he want’s to phase it out phase it out right away, 1st year. But like all Pols he keeps it right thru his 1st term!


6 posted on 02/01/2016 12:44:19 PM PST by Harpotoo
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To: napscoordinator

So we can’t end one until we end them all? Moronic. Ethanol is the most wasteful and egregious, and it takes one heck of a politician to campaign for ethanol cuts in Iowa just before the major caucus in a tight political race.


7 posted on 02/01/2016 12:44:33 PM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Harpotoo

Yep. But we do know that Cruz is a fraud and will saying anything to get elected.


8 posted on 02/01/2016 12:46:16 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: don-o

Look. We need to Make America Great again. That means ethanol for everybody, forever, okay? If the ethanol mandates and subsidies end, it would be horrible, believe me. REALLY horrible.


9 posted on 02/01/2016 12:46:43 PM PST by subterfuge (TED CRUZ FOR POTUS!)
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To: napscoordinator

Life-long independent oil producer here. (Stripper wells)

What subsidies are you talking about? I’d love to hear about them.


10 posted on 02/01/2016 12:46:58 PM PST by OkiMusashi (Beware the fury of a patient man. --- John Dryden)
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To: Teacher317

No but Cruz never said end subsidies to the energy companies which are in Texas. He is not bold at all. And 5 years after he is reelected so he can change his mind and keep the subsidies going. You blind Cruz lovers are nuts.


11 posted on 02/01/2016 12:47:27 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Harpotoo

Phase outs make sense here. The farmers do need time to adjust to plan new crop strategies and find new contracts. Cutting it all at once would be unnecessarily tough on the entire Ag sector. There’s no need for an immediate cut, except for your feelings.


12 posted on 02/01/2016 12:47:32 PM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: OkiMusashi

Are you serious? Name what taxes the companies pay? Oh that is right....none. Thank you. Game over. I win.


13 posted on 02/01/2016 12:48:15 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

LOL!

I didn’t think so.


14 posted on 02/01/2016 12:50:10 PM PST by OkiMusashi (Beware the fury of a patient man. --- John Dryden)
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To: napscoordinator

Had your hearing checked recently? Ted said remove all energy subsidies...get the government out of picking winners and supporting losers. (Solyndra)


15 posted on 02/01/2016 12:51:02 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked!)
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To: napscoordinator
Are you serious? Name what taxes the companies pay? Oh that is right....none.

Are you saying energy companies don't pay taxes?

16 posted on 02/01/2016 12:54:40 PM PST by Ditto
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To: don-o

Do you know how many people care about ethanol in this election? Neither do I, but it’s very damn few. Cruz Alinskyed himself by creating polarization where it’s wasn’t necessary.


17 posted on 02/01/2016 12:55:00 PM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: don-o

Oh please. You are really really hot for Cruz. You believe every word of this fraud. I am so amazed that it is you! If someone told me that you were going to sell your soul to the devil a year ago, “I would have laughed and said no way not Mr. don-o”. That is impossible because he is a big person of principles. Wow.....what a primary says about people. Hopefully you will think about your fandom and see the wrongs of your past months. It is not too late to get back in God’s graces......thankfully.


18 posted on 02/01/2016 12:55:34 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Ditto

Are you going to lie to everyone’s face and say they do?


19 posted on 02/01/2016 12:56:03 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: don-o

A liar lies, it does not matter what they are lying about.


20 posted on 02/01/2016 12:56:05 PM PST by Souled_Out (Our hope is in the power of God working through the hearts of people.)
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